Everton’s record at Old Trafford in the Premier League era has been so miserable that if you’d told your average Blue that they would end a 12-year wait for victory at this end of the East Lancs Road in the manner in which they did this evening, they’d have told you to pull the other one.

And yet, in its own perverse and improbable way it was very “Everton”. Shorn of their club captain due to injury before 10 minutes had elapsed and then down a man to a red card barely three minutes later — for slapping his own team-mate, no less — it looked for all the world as though the Toffees had found a new way to push the self-destruct button, as they have in so many away games on these big stages down the years.

The last visit to these parts last December was as ugly as it gets. Sean Dyche’s Everton gifted United two shocking goals and went down 4–0, handing Ruben Amorim his first victory as Manchester United boss. It meant that the Blues made the short trip east this time weighed down by more than three decades of chronic under-performance on the grounds of the most successful clubs of the Premier League era; a pitiful record superseded only by that of their manager who came into the evening having won just one of 78 away games against the so-called “Big Six”.

This time, things appeared to fall apart early and suddenly, portending another heavy defeat at United's hands. (The Toffees, of course, had only won on this ground twice since 1992, ironically enough when Moyes was in the opposition dugout.) Everton were forced to battle through 80-plus minutes short-handed against a talented team that were on a five-match unbeaten streak, had won each of their last four home fixtures and, it appeared, were finally starting to purr under their Portuguese coach. 

That the Blues not only kept a clean sheet — England’s No 1 stood tall with a magnificent personal display — but came away with all three points means that this match will go down in the annals as one of the most memorable and satisfying in Everton’s modern history.

Given the circumstances and against all those odds, this was a quite staggering performance by a team that, initially, was sufficiently unfazed by Idrissa Gueye’s stunning early dismissal to take the game to their opponents and then grab the lead with a wonderful strike from Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall (at the very least outfield man of the match) before digging in resolutely to see out the victory.

Most of the column inches in the national media will, no doubt, be devoted to United’s latest slip-up under Amorim — kudos to The Times for giving Everton their due; thumbs down to The Telegraph for taking the predictable path — but even without the injured Matheus Cunha, theirs is a team stuffed with talented players like Amad Diallo, Bruno Fernandes and the usually irrepressible Bryan Mbeumo.

But this was as much a story of Jordan Pickford’s brilliance and Everton’s resilience from front to back as it was about the failure by United and the likes of Fernandes, Mbeumo and Joshua Zirkzee to make the breakthrough. Thierno Barry exuded a composure often absent from his early appearances in Blue, holding the ball up impressively and maintaining aerial superiority against Matthijs de Ligt and Leny Yoro; Iliman Ndiaye was industry and guile personified, his efforts matched by Dewsbury-Hall and James Garner’s tireless tenacity in front of a back four that stood firm after it had been bolstered by Jake O’Brien’s introduction for Coleman.

What will be lost in the endless analysis of where United fell short is that Everton were excellent in the first half, whether with 11 or 10 men on the field, and admirably resolute in the second. They had started the game on the front foot and though his effort was disappointingly wayward, Ndiaye had fired an early warning shot in the ninth minute having cut in from the left in trademark fashion.

Their momentary loss of control came 13 minutes in when James Tarkowski stepped across Mbeumo to dispossess the forward and Gueye flicked the loose ball inside towards Keane who hadn’t anticipated the pass and backed off instead. That left Fernandes to hammer a shot that narrowly missed the far post while Gueye began remonstrating vigorously with his centre-half for switching off.

The exchange of words became more agitated until Keane twice shoved his team-mate in the chest which elicited a raised hand to the side of the face from Gueye and, without hesitation or much deliberation, a red card from referee Tony Harrington for "violent conduct".

The Senegal international had to be forcibly restrained by his goalkeeper while Keane mockingly waved him off towards the tunnel. Moyes, meanwhile, began passing on instructions to his remaining charges on how to deal with what was an early and potentially disastrous set-back.

The astounding sending off didn’t seem to spark the home side into life, though; instead, it seemed to galvanise the visitors who could have wilted but almost made inroads in the 17th minute when Ndiaye broke away but just couldn’t find Barry as Amad Diallo tracked back to divert his throughball to safety.

12 minutes after that, however, a lovely seven-pass move that began with Jack Grealish collecting a knockdown inside United’s half ended with Dewsbury-Hall curling home beautifully from the edge of the box to put Everton a goal up. The former Chelsea man was aided slightly by Leny Yoro’s tame attempt to dispossess him as he jinked along the 18-yard line but he set himself smartly on his right foot and Senne Lammens could only get his fingers to the shot as the ball flew into the top corner.

Predictably, it was Amorim’s men who carried the threat between then and half-time but they found the Blues in obdurate mood. Pickford pushed away Amad's low drive, Patrick Dorgu met a cross from the right at the back post but smashed his effort wide before Amad tricked his way in again but, thankfully, dragged his shot past the post and the keeper acrobatically parried a stinging Fernandes drive over on the stroke of half-time.

If there was a concern about the second period it was that Everton were increasingly forced onto the back foot as United continued their vain quest for an equaliser, but there was no faulting the Blues’ incredible rearguard action.

At the heart of it was Pickford who made a good one-handed stop to push away Mbeumo’s shot and substitute Mason Mount whipped the rebound inches past the far upright. Then, after Mount had popped up near the byline and laid it back for Fernandes, only for the Portuguese international to prod it over the crossbar from close range, Pickford pulled off his best save of the night, leaping to his right at full stretch to finger-tip Zirkzee’s leaping header past his right-hand post.

Still the Red Devils came, urged on by an impatient crowd, and Fernandes drilled another rising pile-driver that just cleared the bar before Kobbie Mainoo clipped a cross in for Zirkzee but once again he was foiled by Pickford who batted the header over his bar.

Everton, whose only openings at the other end after half-time had come for Grealish, who passed up the chance to have a crack at goal, and a deflected Keane effort following a free-kick, could have killed the contest on the breakaway at the end but made a mess of two opportunities. The second just needed subs Beto and Carlos Alcaraz to connect as Lammens, up for a United corner, was sprinting back towards his empty net but both blue shirts seemed to run away from the ball as it was cleared upfield.

Instead, it was United who had the last chance of the game when the ball fell invitingly to De Ligt in front of goal but his eventual shot was weak and easily claimed by the keeper. Then, as four minutes of stoppage time was brought to a close by the referee, unbridled celebration in the packed away end who had sung their way boisteriously for most of the evening!

Ordinarily, this wouldn’t be as celebrated a result as it undoubtedly has been. United are a decent side and a club who have spent ungodly sums of money building a team that should be performing better than it is under Amorim. But given their trials and tribulations under the former Sporting head coach, they are far from the top-flight Goliath they were of yesteryear.

And yet, there is the weight of all that history that was thrown off this evening. In the Premier League era, no team had beaten Manchester United at Old Trafford having had a man sent off before tonight. And, again, Everton’s record in these fixtures, particularly at the homes of the old “Sky 4” has been a painfully nagging thorn in the sides of supporters for years.

The longer time has gone, the more Blues fans have bristled at their team’s routine failure in these games and nothing brought that into sharper focus than watching Sean Dyche’s Nottingham Forest take apart reigning champions Liverpool on Saturday to record a second away win on the Reds' turf in succession.

So for Everton and for Moyes, this was a seismic moment; easily the biggest result of his second stint as the Blues’ manager and among the most impressive wins of either of his tenures at the club. Hopefully, it can act as a catalyst for more in a season where the competitiveness of the top flight could yet open up opportunity for any club that can put together a run of positive results and sustain their form for the entire campaign.

For the next few days, though, Evertonians can bask in a famous win and the sight of their team sitting above neighbours Liverpool at this stage of a season for the first time in 10 years.



Reader Responses

Selected thoughts from readers
Certain off-topic comments may be removed to keep the discussion on track

1  John Fitzgerald
25/11/2025    06:13:50

Moyes got everything right tonight, maybe should’ve brought Alcaraz on earlier, but I loved his “I like my players fighting” reaction. That was a proper team performance, (well, apart from the obvious). Feels like a corner turned and very timely what with the upcoming fixtures. You’d like to think it’ll quieten the Moyes haters for a bit, but they’ll always find a way…

2  Mike Allison
25/11/2025    07:18:40

John, Moyes gets criticism when he deserves it. The term ‘Moyes-hater’ is a pointless, derogatory and divisive one. When we fail to win games he should be criticised, especially this season with his failure to use substitutes adequately.

When we win games, especially in this manner, then we should praise him and recognise his qualities.

You don’t have to pick a side and then label ‘the enemy’. Just allow fans to give their honest opinions based on what they see, which will naturally be different depending on the results and performances.

3  Jerome Shields
25/11/2025    07:39:16

Moyes set up the team on the front foot from the start which was different than his normal tactics in such games.It actually with stood a injured Captain and a sending off till half time , proving that it was the right course of action.

The half time talk would have been supercharged and the objective for play would have been galvanised, with no negativity in sight. Anyway Pickford had that covered during play.

Hopefully Moyes will continue to push the boat out.He now may have confidence in his team to do so.

4  Paul Ferry
25/11/2025    07:51:24

'John, Moyes gets criticism when he deserves it. The term ‘Moyes-hater’ is a pointless, derogatory and divisive one'.

My thoughts exactly, Mike, a term used so casually at times for anyone who dares to criticise. It's childish and churlish. I criticise Moyes when I feel it's appropriate, and likewise give him credit when credit is due.

5  Paul Conway
25/11/2025    08:16:27

We were looking very good up until the Gana/Keane incident.

Immediately afterwards, I was shouting at Moyes to replace Keane, as, I thought that that incident, could have had a profound impact on his game and cause an already error-prone Keane to go all wobbly.

But, Coleman had come off, to be replaced by O’Brien.

In any case.. How wrong was I?

We probably wouldn’t have had the same resilience and he wouldn’t have been part of such a Valliant performance.

Everything Panned out so well.

We fought back from a man down, to snatch a well deserved victory, without a goal from a set-piece in sight.

We leap-Frogged our Ugly Neighbours, who have a minus two, in the Goal Difference Column !

We are sniffing the scent of the European places.

And frankly, who would bet against us right now, not to reach those Dizzy Heights, after such a sterling performance ?

To all my Fellow Blues… Relish the Buzz.. you more than deserve it!

6  Duncan McDine
25/11/2025    08:32:11

Fantastic to get the win at Old Trafford and some fabulous performances, but I think we could've battered them with 11 vs 11, so I'm still disgusted at the sending off. Barry is starting to be really quite effective in build up play which is great to see. Hopefully a goal or two for the lad will make him feel like he's an important part of the team - that will boost his development further.

7  Ian Bennett
25/11/2025    08:42:50

I don't think any manager doesnt hope his team can start on the front foot Jermome. But it is whether the opposition allows it to happen. It is a contest after all.

There is no way Spurs didn't want the ball on sunday. Its just Arsenal wanted it more.

Back to Everton. They defended well, but united played into their hands by lumping into Keane, Tarkowski and Obrien.

The better piece, was Everton actually retaining possession. Barry was a good outlet, but the midfield of Garner, Dewesbury Hall, Ndiaye and Grealish showed their ball possession ability. That was critical to giving the defence some respite.

8  Micky Newman
25/11/2025    08:49:04

Our away support is absolutely magnificent. What a night!
And Thierno Barry was brilliant too. How many headers did he win?

9  Steve Brown
25/11/2025    09:16:57

The key statistic for me is that Everton played 122 forward passes to Man Utd's 172, despite being with 10 men for 85 minutes including injury time. Really impressive.

The team never stopped trying to be retain possession and be progressive in their passing, especially in the first half.

That shows that if you play a high defensive line, press high up the pitch, retain possession and look for a forward pass, then this team has potential against most teams despite some of the squad weaknesses.

10  John Fitzgerald
25/11/2025    09:22:05

Guess what, Paul and Mike? I criticise Moyes when he gets it wrong but credit him when he gets it right. As supporting Everton should be. I’m not relentlessly negative about Moyes for the sake of it. Today is a good day to be a blue.

11  Paul Ferry
25/11/2025    09:37:35

13 Micky. but it would be nice if he scored a goal, that's why we bought him, and strikers are not really judged by defensive headers, how important they might be.

12  Peter Fancy
25/11/2025    10:12:40

John 1. Don’t worry they will be back in force as soon as we next lose or draw, along with the Barry haters and the Tarky haters and the recruitment team haters etc. etc. ad infinitum blah blah blah

I always look forward to the borderline psychotic vitriol directed at the club certain people allegedly support…

13  Andrew Ellams
25/11/2025    10:19:31

The biggest positive out of last night was the Garner/Dewsbury-Hall central partnership after the red card.

As Gana could now be unavailable until late January this is the chance for them to cement that as our number 1 pairing.

14  Steve Brown
25/11/2025    10:28:02

Ian, did you watch the Arsenal v Spurs game?

Spurs played a back 5 with a low block. They had Richarlison and Kudus mainly marking Arsenal’s two holding midfielders, negative tactics that ceded possession.

If we had played like that, we would have lost last night.

15  Jim Potter
25/11/2025    10:33:37

The resilience shown by the players left out on the pitch was heroic.

After a petulant reaction to a misread pass, Gueye and Keane threw away the positivity of our composed start.

Heavy fines hopefully will follow, but, these things happen in emotional moments. Great that they care passionately, but, for Christ sake guys!?

Dewsbury-Hall's goal was heaven sent, and the performance thereafter the complete reverse of what my seasoned pessimistic self expected from us.

Well done to the tenacious ten who, in all their substituted forms, created a great memory.

Let's ride this blue wave.

16  Si Shaw
25/11/2025    11:30:51

Great result and performance. And once again some stunning goalkeeping from Pickford. That guy gets more impressive season by season.
Like Andrew I wonder if Garner and KDH is the way to go in the centre of the midfield.

17  kevin molloy
25/11/2025    11:39:56

interesting analysis from Talksport and Ally McCoist. This result is apparently worse than Grimsby.
'United lost. One nil. To Everton. With ten men. where do the Red Devils go from here?'
'I actually think United are more suited to playing against the better teams, where they can hit them on the break.'

Ah.

18  Paul Birmingham
25/11/2025    11:57:11

Tremendous victory, guts, character and brilliant teamwork and skill.

Lets savour and build for another great game v Newcastle.

Same effort again please Everton!

19  Darren Hind
25/11/2025    11:59:13

Terrific report Lyndon.

Great night for all true blues, but I feel sorry for those who cant seem to enjoy the performance and the result, but see it as an opportunity to attack anybody who hasnt Happy clapped Moyes previous 78 games against the sky 4.

"Haters" ????? Fuck me Get a life. Or at least get a grip.

Moyes gets stick when he gets it wrong, but he is the toast of Evertonia today because he got it right last night. Thats how it works.

There is a distinct difference between legitimate citicism of a manager who often gets it wrong. A center half who is playing very badly and a forward who hasnt looked remotely like scoring and "Hatred". They all avoid criticism today because they played their part....Unfortunately what should have been a happy, celebratory thread has been marred from the off by people who don't seem able to make that distinction.

The "hater" haters are best left to their own warped view. Meanwhile the rest of us will celebrate a great night had by (nearly) all.

20  Lee Courtliff
25/11/2025    12:23:29

Fabulous performance last night, really proud of all of them but especially pleased to Barry getting tu grips with the League and renaissance and resilience of Michael Keane. It would have been easy for him to fold last night after what happened.

We need a Big atmosphere and another Big performance on Saturday and if we win, we're in with a real chance of building some momentum that might even lead to European football.

There is nothing special in this League outside of Arsenal and maybe 1 or 2 others. We could definitely be in the mix come April time.

21  Jerome Shields
25/11/2025    12:54:55

Ian #7

I think that Moyes does set up a bit deeper than last night, in such a game.But he seemed to get the message that it would not work.He did it at Anfield.United did try to push out.

I actually think that Gyene needs a rest.Now that Moyes is over Crying Off regarding the Summer Transfer Window and actually made a effort to use some of young Summer signings , I am hopeful of a better Everton going forward.

I never considered myself a Moyes Hater.I just think after this past thirty years I am entitled to hold the Manager and players to account for their performance .I believe this contributes to standards being set and not acceptance of medcroority.

22  Paul Tran
25/11/2025    13:52:58

Moyes, and most of the players, got it right yesterday. A performance that reminded me of the many resilient 1-0 wins in his first spell.

I'm hoping it sticks with the players that when they start with energy and purpose, they can take control of a game.

The league table shows a mediocre league with a handful of points between most clubs. There's an opportunity here, if we're brave enough to reach for it.

23  Ian Bennett
25/11/2025    14:41:12

I did watch it Steve.

I just thought the technical ability & pace of Arsenal blew Spurs away.

Spurs could of been more adventurous, but I don't think it would changed a good hiding. Pre match hardly any spurs player get into a combined x1, and post match the performance highlighted why.

24  Antony Abrahams
25/11/2025    14:45:48

I’ve began to read Evertonia, and have even posted a couple of times in the last few days because I have thought there seem to be some knowledgeable and sensible people, using this website.

I read an article about Moyes, which was written in September and it really resonated with me, and then I read another one yesterday, which talked about numerous games when we have stood up to Manchester United, and beaten them, including our last victory at O-T, when David Moyes, was in the home dugout.

I didn’t see hate, I saw expectation from a person who has lived through times when Everton, were truly the greatest football club, in the land.

We won against great odds yesterday, the first time United have been beaten at home by ten men, in the premier league, apparently.

A fantastic performance, which I’m certain was full of a lot of of the good things that most people look for, when they try and assess the game.

Evertonians are very proud and they got a performance to be proud of, and yet a person who criticises the manager when he gets it wrong, can’t wait to criticise like minded people, because there was nothing to criticise our manager for, last night!

Enjoy the day, I was waking everyone in my house up this morning at 6.45, with about a dozen renditions of “I’ve never felt more like singing the blues” and I’m 56 years of age in a couple of weeks. Up the fucking toffees!

25  Mike Hayes
25/11/2025    15:15:48

A great performance and great result what a goal from KDH well worth a rewatch. Not good for Seamus to get injured and had to laugh at the spat between Gana and Keane after listening to Tony Hibbert pre match talking about harmony in the dressing room 😵‍💫 Great win let’s get another 3 points against the bar codes 💙

26  Harry Hockley
25/11/2025    15:51:28

One of the best performances I’ve seen from the whole team and Manager for a very long time.

Every player on the pitch was absolutely exceptional, however, I’d like to highlight one player if I may, that player is Michael Keane.

Keane has been our best player this season so far by some distance, he deserves credit as he’s long been the butt of the joke and heavily criticised in the past, sometimes fairly but in my opinion the criticism of him was harsh and he was an easy target, so to be playing as well as he is really is testament to his mental fortitude and professionalism, last night was a perfect example of this.

I’m sure many of us was thinking he may of been affected by the skirmish with Gueye and may of not been up to the task ahead but again he showed just how strong he is mentally and is clearly relishing the challenge.

Well done Michael Keane and well done David Moyes, you got it right last night and showed us and the doubters, myself included, that you are capable and can do more.

Well done Everton.

27  Howard Poole
25/11/2025    15:59:38

A fine headline which set the tone for a cracking report; thank you.
This was an immaculate performance with the superb skill & effort on the field matched by astute game management & the best use of substitutes by Davey thus far.
Sure the red was a glitch & certainly not the players one might have thought likely to be involved.
I thought yellow(s) would have been appropriate given that the final section of the relevant rule states, importantly 'unless the blow (slap in this instance) is of negligible force'. My wording but near enough.
Precisely the situation we saw; no damage done.
We have now set the bar high; Saturday will test our resolve.

28  Peter Hodgson
25/11/2025    16:22:29

Harry @26. I agree with your general sentiments regarding MK having a good season so far. Having said that he, in previous seasons, has had a bit of a mixed time of it so it is not a garden of roses always for Michael is it?

But to be absolutely fair to Gana MK does have a habit of going to sleep/switching off and all that Idrissa was doing, rather foolishly it turns out, was trying to wake him up so that he wouldn't do the same again. 10/10 to Gana for demonstarting his feelings about how much he wants Everton to do well and win as much as they can and that EVERYONE should play their part in that.

What great performance the BMD10 put in though wasn't it. Great to see. More of that please Blues.

29  John Fitzgerald
25/11/2025    16:30:38

Ah, now I get it. I wasn’t referring to Darren Hinds’

article. I hadn’t even read it. I was referring to the small, hyper-critical fringe of Everton fans who simply can’t and haven’t said a good word about dour/dithering/Scottish whatever” David Moyes even when he turns it all on it’s head with an avowedly aggressive plan to win at what is now laughably known as a “Big Club”. They’re not on here, but they certainly are elsewhere. Their negativity is so baked in it’s hard to work out where the support for Everton actually begins and ends. Like I said before, there’s plenty of legit stuff to throw at Moyes, but I can’t understand anyone who has such a personal animosity to a guy, stubborn maybe, who is trying his damndest to get things right on the pitch - that winning under his leadership fucks them off.

30  David Lynch
25/11/2025    16:45:09

I don't "hate" Moyes, he just frustrates the life out of me.

He...imo should let teams worry about us, we have for once a good blend of skillful and solid players.

Play to our strengths and don't try to nullify the opponents, that only disrupts our style.

Fabulous win and big up to the players and management.

31  Duncan McDine
25/11/2025    17:14:05

Sorry for going off subject, but Lyndon - are there plans to add a live forum on match days (or perhaps there already is one)? For me, it would be the final nail in the sports-betting-forum coffin.

32  John Fitzgerald
25/11/2025    17:24:12

So, Gueye got a round of applause in the dressing room from the entire team after his fulsome apology to them, and Keane in particular, at the end of the game.
A weird way to kickstart a season, but I’ll take it if it turns out that way.
Am I right in remembering MacManaman clumping Grobbelaar in a game once?

33  Jeff Armstrong
25/11/2025    18:43:42

Yes Mcmanaman and The Clown had a tiff at Wembley against us, the farthest one back I can remember was Derek Hales and Mike Flanagan at Charlton in the seventies, more recently Bowyer and Dyer, also Batty and LeSaux I believe.

34  Liam Mogan
25/11/2025    18:51:49

Grobbelaar/McManaman was at Goodison when Mark Ward scored. Neither got sent off even though the rules were the same back then. With hindsight it probably galvanised us last night to a memorable victory.

Grobbelaar had similar at Wembley 86 v us, with Beglin. Seems its ok for some teams?

Not good to have Gana out for 3 games though. Squad is looking a bit threadbare.

35  Antony Abrahams
25/11/2025    19:54:25

Im sure it would have been a lot different if we had lost, but hopefully that unbelievably bad (imo) decision by last night’s ref, helps galvanise the squad, after they hung on for a great victory that was full of grit and determination.

Sorry John, I haven’t really seen much negativity on this website, especially those throwaway remarks that don’t really add much to sensible debate, and usually just cause pointless arguments, and because of this, I was wondering why you had to bring up anything negative, after such a great win.

36  John Fitzgerald
25/11/2025    20:54:12

Because, Anthony, everything that Moyes was rightfully accused of regarding playing the big six previously: far too defensive, knife to gunfight etc - he provided the perfect riposte to it last night. It’s taken a while, but it was a prescient response. Maybe he’s decided that he’s only got one more chance to redeem himself and he’s gone for it.

37  Antony Abrahams
25/11/2025    21:51:22

I hope so John, because it’s much better than hearing that he simply hasn’t got the players, mate.

United weren’t that clever, but other than the leaders, then there are quite a few teams that look capable of beating anyone, so hopefully David, can get us approaching a lot more games like he did last night.

The squad is probably still a little bit too short but momentum is a great thing, so the more we can hopefully gather, then the greater our chances will become this season.

I’d still sooner win the FA Cup, rather than achieving anything else this season, if I’m being honest though.

38  John Fitzgerald
25/11/2025    22:31:00

Agreed Anthony. Last night had the feel of a group of players who got a real taste of success - a turning point - I’m not ruling out an FA Cup Final anymore. Haven’t seen that in an Everton team for a long long time.

39  Brent Stephens
25/11/2025    23:30:14

Sat (or rather stood) in the away end, a really encouraging start (what might this hold for the evening) turned into despair (we've thrown away any chance of a point), and then turned into admiration for a battling side resisting the inevitable onslaught. Bizarrely, that became "could this possibly rescue a point", and, finally, the minutes feeling like hours as a win seemed a possibility. And ultimately the unthinkable, the actual outcome.

Time moves more slowly, the faster you travel; and it moves even more slowly as a game like that crawls to its conclusion.

40  Paul Ferry
25/11/2025    23:41:47

I'm glad that you were there Brent to share that fantastic atmosphere and performance. I was a few thousand miles away, but I'm lucky to know what that atmosphere is like. It's very special and yesterday adds another unforgettable experience to our collective identity and memory.

I bet that you had a big smile on your face on the way home to Birkdale, and a few bevvies too.

41  Don Alexander
25/11/2025    23:56:04

Great report Lyndon, thanks.

As Darren, me and a few others have pointed out, last night just may be the coming out at last of our manager into somebody who is able to inspire himself AND his squad to this season win a trophy (the FA cup meaningfully) by taking the game to EVERY opponent. Last night we showed we have the heart, skill and desire to do it with ten men, and that's remarkable.

I really do hope so but with that collective effort on and off the pitch there's real grounds for optimism in next month's games and who knows what after that?

42  Paul Conway
25/11/2025    23:58:12

Jim Potter @ 15

I personally think that heavy fines for both players, would have been a tad harsh.

Gana has already a three match suspension.

As for Keane. How the hell did he manage to turn his game around, with that shit going on inside his head?

kudos to the lad, after all it was a spat between two team mates in the heat of the moment, with passion overflowing.

We were decidedly on top at That moment in time and we were putting them to the sword

.

Moyes didn’t frown on the incident and according to Amorim, it didn’t warrant a red card.

Ok! The ref was applying the letter of the law, but it was an issue between two teammates and could and should have been resolved with a yellow card for both.

43  Dennis Stevens
26/11/2025    00:44:32

Agreed, Paul. Two yellows rather than one red would have been a more sensible approach from the referee, imo.

44  Steve Brown
26/11/2025    05:10:36

Really hope this victory has a huge impact on the self-belief of the manager and the team when facing Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City and Chelsea. Apart from Arsenal, these teams are vulnerable this season.

The mentality and gameplan was a millions miles from how we approached the Anfield Derby earlier in the season.

45  John Fitzgerald
26/11/2025    10:14:43

I hope the players smell blood for the Newcastle game after they were brought back down to earth last night. It’s been a while since Jordan let one in against them. They should all be really up for this one.

46  Craig Walker
28/11/2025    16:12:37

I don't want to sound greedy but I'd love 3 points against the Barcodes tomorrow night. We've done well against them at home in recent seasons. I hope the fans are up for it. A win could really give us some impetus being only 3 points off 5th place before a tricky away trip to Bournemouth.

Regarding the debate about Moyes, he can frustrate me with his safety-first approach at times but, on the whole, I'm glad we have him. There are other charismatic managers out there but how many managers have had a decent run of results and looked the real deal only for it to fall apart? Graham Potter, anyone? Ask West Ham fans whether they would have Moyes back. They wanted more entertaining football and look where that got them. He won them a trophy but the grass was greener elsewhere.

47  John Raftery
28/11/2025    21:06:11

I noticed some comments online questioning the continued inclusion of two keepers on the bench at Old Trafford. Although all the available outfielders were included there were some arguing an under 21 or under 18 player should have been given the opportunity to sit on the bench for the experience. While there is some substance in that argument both the junior teams had fixtures scheduled for the following day.

Tomorrow the first team squad is even thinner. With Gana, Seamus, Patterson, Branthwaite and Röhl unavailable we have only 15 recognised first team outfield players to select from. While the under 18s have a game tomorrow at Wolves perhaps this will be the opportunity to fill the bench with a couple of the under 21 squad.

48  Jim Potter
28/11/2025    21:09:19

Paul #42.

I get your view point, but shouldn't ones actions have consequences?

99 / 100 we'd have lost that game because of Gueye and Keane's schoolboy histrionics. (And, if it goes unpunished by the club, what does it say to actual school kids? You can act however you like, sod the team, forget the negative portrayal of the club and still collect your full wage packet)?

Did I think the ref acted too quickly? Yep.

For me, a stern talking to and yellow cards for both players would have sufficed. But, Gueye totally lost control, and Keane goaded him. Not the professionalism I've come to expect from two normally very likeable and mature players.

The PL's three match ban is their view of the punishment. To me, the club should address their behaviour internally.

It's just my view.

I did credit all those who fought on (including Keane).

Let's hope all 11 stay on the pitch to celebrate a win tomorrow.

49  John Fitzgerald
28/11/2025    23:28:48

Jim - your point about 11 players staying on the pitch tomorrow- Pickford did a textbook number on winding them last season at GP - if I was a betting man I’d put hard cash on Guimarãres getting sent off tomorrow-Jordan knows how to get to him.

50  Darren Hind
29/11/2025    05:52:41

I was going to say I despise Newcastle, but then I realised I had said I despised Man United last week. Before that I despised Spurs and before that..

I never...EVER thought I would see the day when I was jealous of the Geordies, but when I saw their joy at seeing their team parade a trophy through the streets. I was green with Envy. Just as I am when I see any other club having a victory parade. 1995 seems a long long time ago. A former life

I so hope that the incident between Keane and Gana turns out to be the catalyst which puts on the road to winning a trophy. The fear of never seeing it happen again is becoming very real.

51  Paul Conway
29/11/2025    07:32:14

Yeah! Darren.
It does make one feel down in the mouth, when you consider the fact that our last trophy was 30 years ago.

The panic is more Palpable for Evertonians in their twilight years ( 69 and still counting !), as the fear of deception can lead to frustration and heavy criticism of Both Manager and Players.

But, I must admit that we have come a long way this last year and the annual dread leading up to Christmas has dissipated.

Huge respect To our fans who travel up and down the Country, shelling out hard earned cash, in support and encouragement for our Team.
I do realise, that we are a project and the fear of going a goal down, no longer feels like defeat is imminent.
So, personally, I feel that that alone is progress.

52  Paul Birmingham
29/11/2025    08:37:21

Darren, like wise, I despise many clubs in this League and a few more than others, no clues!
I think in my case, it's the recall to by gone times long ago.

Times, move on and Everton, are on the ascent, and on the rise slowky but surely.

Hard lessons, have hopefully been learnt.

Not quite the Berlin Wall coming down, but the shackles, and the lost key for Evertonians, to a better pkace, has been found.

This season Moysey,is fighting, and is learning. Great to see, and long may it continue.

Tonight, is a massive game for Everton. Let's forget the rest, and lets see Everton carry on with the guile,skill,guts and confidence and belief shown at Old Trafford.

That win took me back to those by gone times.

Hopefully today will be another day to remember for Evertonians.

Paul Conway, a very good assessment of these days at Everton, its looking very good but will take time.

53  Antony Abrahams
29/11/2025    10:31:35

That’s a really worrying thought Darren. I found out at the last minute, that a cracking little Evertonian, was getting buried last Monday, and managed to get to the church to pay my respects.

Bagpipes playing Z-Cars, a fantastic turnout, with everyone wearing a little blue ribbon, and I thought to myself, I bet you Everton win at Man Utd, tonight.

We won, it made everyone happy and then the next day I thought to myself, fuckinhell, there’s another brilliant Evertonian, who has gone to his grave without seeing us win a trophy in thirty years.

At least he saw the good times in the eighties, so when Craig W@46, wrote, I hope the fans are up for it tonight, it took me back to a conversation I had with a few of the lads, last night, when we all agreed that Bramley-Moore, will be noisy before the game and if Everton can win, it will be absolutely fucking bouncing.

There’s no love lost between Evertonians and those Geordies, so it might just get a little bit interesting on the Dock road tonight.

54  Jerome Shields
03/12/2025    06:56:44

Darren no chance with Moyes in charged.He is just a stop gap.He is not even stage one. Any Manager that comes after him will find they are starting from square one. Just like all the Managers that have came after him where ever he managed.There was never enough left to build on from the team through to the back team.


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