Skeleton crew fail to convince in turgid draw at Turf Moor
Burnley 0 – 0 Everton
Shorn of their creative stars, Everton toiled through a goalless encounter with Burnley in a game that could have gone either way but probably didn't deserve a winner
If Everton end up falling just short of some milestone of relative over-achievement in the Premier League this season — perhaps a Europa Conference League berth or top-10 finish — they will look back on missed opportunities like this and the disappointing points dropped against beatable opposition.
Wolves may be on course to record the lowest tally of the modern era but for most of this post-Christmas bore-fest at Turf Moor, Burnley were comfortably the worst side the Blues have faced thus far. And yet, if it weren’t for the slenderest of margins, Scott Parker’s charges might have pinched all three points.
Late substitute Zian Flemming was eventually flagged offside in what would have been a razor-thin decision had the Video Assistant Referee been required to review it but the Dane’s shot striking the base of Jordan Pickford’s post and skidding across the face of goal rendered it moot.
Nevertheless, the Clarets will be kicking themselves for not having grabbed the win in a game that was desperately short on quality for long periods but which threw up sporadic moments of quality, not least an excellent dinked pass by Marcus Edwards that was squandered by Jacob Bruun Larsen and a couple of crucial stops from Martin Dubravka to deny both of Everton’s strikers getting their second goals of the season and .
That statistic stands out like a sore thumb where the Toffees’ are concerned and it goes a long way to explaining how David Moyes’s men weren’t able to grind out a victory that would have put them back in touch with the pack chasing Europe.
Shorn of their four best outfield players and their creative lifeblood — Jack Grealish’s absence through illness compounded the loss of Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall and Iliman Ndiaye — Everton were forced to rely on a starting XI that has just four goals between them in the campaign so far.
Beto was handed what has become a rare start as David Moyes sought to mix things up up top but the Portuguese toiled ineffectively through the first hour before almost breaking the deadlock with a moment of magic while his replacement, Thierno Barry, was frustrated by the Burnley goalkeeper 13 minutes from the end of the 90.
The truth is that Everton simply didn’t create enough against a poor side and could have few complaints about only coming away from this part of Lancashire with a point that means they drop back into the bottom half of the table after three games without either a goal or a win.
With Grealish appearing to struggle through the last few matches with a thigh problem, it was no surprise that he was missing from the line-up when the teams were announced 75 minutes before kick-off but it turned out instead that he had been battling a virus this week.
That left Everton down to the bare bones but it meant that Dwight McNeil could be given the platform to shine on his favoured left flank and Dibling an opportunity to impress in what was only his second league start since his big-money move from Southampton.
Unfortunately, McNeil fell rather flat on his old stomping ground and while Dibling had his moments, all too often he faced the same problem that has blighted Grealish at Everton, namely double-marking and a lack of options around him.
Tim Iroegbunam was industry personified and James Garner provided the urgency and composure that was needed throughout the side but overall it was painfully evident that this is a team heavily reliant on individual brilliance rather than any coherent playing style or philosophy running through the squad.
On the evident of the first half, it felt as though even with their skeletal options, Everton would have enough to claim the points. They survived an early scare when Pickford missed his punch off a corner and James Tarkowski lunged to block in front of his goal before Lucas Pires fired the rebound wide from the edge of the box.
Then, apart from an off-target Armando Broja header in the 25th minute, the bulk of the chances fell the Blues’ way and after Beto had failed to steer a Vitalii Mykolenko header towards the target, he came within a whisker of scoring. The mercurial Charly Alcaraz led a breakaway out of his own half and fed Dibling on the right and when the winger cut back onto his left foot and drilled a deflected ball across goal, it skipped over Beto’s out-stretched leg and behind for a corner.
More lovely footwork by Dibling saw him sweep the ball into the side-netting from the angle in the 21st minute and, eight minutes later, his hooked ball from the byline found Alcaraz in the centre but the Argentine could only plant a header into Dubrakva’s arms.
Perhaps the best chance of the first period fell to Alcaraz 10 minutes before the break but opting to take a touch when a first-time finish was by far the better option, he gave the defender in front of him the time to charge down his belated shot and the opportunity went begging.
The intensity required from Everton never really materialised after half-time and after Garner had blazed well over when the keeper could only flap a McNeil corner to him in the edge of the area and Alcaraz had also skied a Dibling cross into the stands, Burnley started to ask questions at the other end, with Edwards heavily involved.
First, the 27-year-old popped up in space in the box but tried to lay it off to a team mate rather than shoot and Iroegbunam cleared. Then, with a chipped ball over the defence, he put Bruun Larsen into the clear but he cleared the crossbar with a side-footed effort. Finally, when he was picked out on the right as Burnley counter-attacked, the ball ended at the feet of Bruun Larsen on the other side of the area but Jake O’Brien made a crucial block to divert the eventual shot behind.
Having weathered that brief squall, Everton thought they’d scored with 61 minutes gone. The ball broke to McNeil in the Clarets’ area and when his right-footed attempt was blocked and Iroegbunam screwed the ball across the six-yard box, Beto cheekily flicked it goal-wards with his heel but Dubravka readjusted and pawed it wide with a tremendous reaction save.
Alcaraz bent a shot off target from the edge of the box and then tried to test the keeper with an acrobatic over-head kick that just lacked sufficient power to really trouble him before Bashir Humphreys’ shot at the other end was blocked and he could only sweep the rebound inches wide of the post.
Beto making way for Barry felt like only a matter of time, particularly after Moyes had readied both the Frenchman and Merlin Röhl on the sideline with an hour gone and the switch almost paid immediate dividends.
Picking the ball up outside the area, Barry powered past his marker and drove a low shot across goal that was searching out the far corner when Dubravka got decisive contact on it to divert it wide.
With six minutes left, VAR Timothy Wood was called upon to make a determination on Craig Pawson’s refusal to award a penalty when Dibling’s powerful effort struck Jaidon Anthony’s arm but he ended up concurring with the on-field official that the proximity of the incident was sufficient grounds not to award a spot-kick.
But if there was to be a winner, Burnley looked the more likely in the closing stages as Everton failed to mount a late charge of their own. Anthony threaded a pass in behind the defence for Flemming that the Dane rolled off the upright before the lineman raised his flag for offside, Lesley Ugochukwu belted a wayward strike high and wide and O’Brien had a late header saved at the near post before Pawson blew for full-time.
Defeat would have been a damning indictment of an Everton side that too often lacked belief and resorted to hopeful balls forward over planned methods of attack on the deck; as it is, a goalless draw still felt like a poor result against a team that will do well to stay up this season.
Of greater concern is how this group of players can navigate the next four weeks without the likes of Ndiaye and Dewsbury-Hall, particularly if Grealish is either sidelined or hampered by injury, and there is no help in terms of incoming transfers.
Nottingham Forest will pose a much sterner test on Tuesday evening and even the home games beyond in the New Year could be hard watches on the basis of this showing.
Reader Responses
Selected thoughts from readers27/12/2025 20:42:56
Dull as dishwater.
27/12/2025 20:50:26
I thought we looked very Burnlyesque
Well, I suppose thats no surprise, considering we have Tarkowski, McNeil and Keane… three very ordinary players, with a common denominator.
When I say very ordinary, you might get the odd good game out of each of them, but never the three of them together.
That seems to be the trend with a lot of our very ordinary players.
Tim for example : he had a good game against Arsenal.. today he retrogrades.
along with Alcaraz!
The lack of skill and composure, in passing to a fellow teammate and Controlling the ball from a pass, was absolutely shocking.
Both Teams gave the ball away to each other Willy Nilly.
They sometimes took two, even three touches to control the ball..
It was total Pinball !
Frankly, maybe OBrien aside, if you took Pickford and Garner out of the equation, I personally would not lament the departure of any of these players.
I am Happy with the point, but not in the manner that it was gained… Buckle in!
27/12/2025 20:52:09
It was exactly what it said on the tin, it was always going to be a game devoid of any quality, however the better moments came from Burnley, you cant point fingers at individuals, or I refuse to anyway and you certainly cant blame Moyes as hes doing his best with a very limited bunch of players at the moment.
Itll be a similar approach against Forest next, if anything it may be more defence minded in the hope of a precious point as this busy period begins to take a toll on a depleted squad thats down to the bare bones.
Apparently were not to expect any movement in the January window according to Moyes, you would have thought that to be true under normal circumstances but our hand has surely been forced, hasnt it? Or do we just slog it out or the remainder? I dread to think of that.
27/12/2025 23:38:54
A mediocre performance, again, at best.
Just who signs these players, and why?
Or does Friedkin still not realise the extent of the calamity he bought out from Moshiri and Moshiri's main man?
If that's the case, just how much optimism can we have in the years to come to viably compete as the trophy winning, legendary football club we were, as a direct consequence of Kenwright and his muppet Moshiri?
28/12/2025 03:19:00
I thought Dibling had a positive performance and was a lot more influential on the game then McNeil on the other wing. Tim in central midfield had a positive game and is another example of a player who needs more game time.
One thing Dibling isnt is quick; he is similar to Ndiaye and Grealish. We need pacey fullbacks to recruit in January so they can influence the rest of the season.
We are only 4 points off a European place; time for TFG to show some ambition.
28/12/2025 08:24:49
On the bench yesterday we only had three outfield players with any first team experience, Patterson who hasnt played all season, Rhol almost similarly and Barry.
We have two centre forwards with two goals between them and are missing our three most influential and creative players.
How we have managed to amass 25 points with such a paper thin squad is amazing.
I know there are slim pickings in January but if we dont sign anyone then its a clear indication that we are seeing the season out and waiting for the summer.
28/12/2025 09:22:40
In the end it felt as though we had gained a point from the sort of dour encounter we were losing this time last year. The lack of quality in the attack of both teams was very evident. From our point of view the consolation was that our three best attacking players, absent today, will return next month. In the meantime Moyes must make do and mend.
Among the positives today were that our man of the match, James Garner, avoided a fifth yellow card. He has one more outing, at Forest on Tuesday, before the threat of a one game suspension is lifted.
The immediate concern is our lack of a goal threat. The next three games, also against teams outside the top six, would ordinarily be seen as an opportunity to climb the table. The risk is that we will be unable to breach well manned defences and be caught on the counter as we nearly were yesterday.
As things stand we are eleventh, twelve points above the relegation zone but appearing woefully short of the fire power required to push for a European place.
28/12/2025 09:39:05
In December last year we drew with City, Chelsea and Arsenal, (we have lost to all three recently) before losing to Forest and Bournemouth.
I hope we can get a point from a very difficult fixture on Tuesday night, but staying in the cup, will surely be the biggest goal for most us.
28/12/2025 09:44:34
I think Peter at 7, sums up our situation perfectly and there is currently very little Moyes can do to improve matters. Nobody has mentioned Jack Grealish's absence, we certainly need him fit and in the team. However, if the reported partying is true, the Manager was right to drop him and I hope he received a big fine. But what happens now ? He should be one of the first names on the team sheet but surely he should not be filling the tabloids with stories of late night parties ?
With so few outfield players available the rest of the squad will have opinions on Jacks reported partying, and his top salary. I hope he gets another chance and plays the rest of the season in fine form, but sadly leopard and spots come to mind.
28/12/2025 09:50:47
Taking the positives of a clean sheet and a point. Jimmy done well kep it together, if only others could follow his committment and playing for the Everton shirt.
Theres the expectations and hopes and overall the club looks like theres a stability not known for decades.
Progress on the park will take time.
If Brainthwaite makes a full recovery and returns hopefully next month that would be a massive boost.
But the lack of poor deliveries into the box, the simple 6 yard side pass that went out of play or to the opposition was numbing.
If only Everons best players, could have played yesterday.
But for now its a hard slog ahead, and Forest will be very tough.
Hopefully the final pass quality will improve, the nous to gamble on taking positions in the box..
28/12/2025 10:41:48
Kia ora from Aotearoa,
Despite this being a pedestrian affair with us facing a team we should have beaten I thought on the positive note ;
Tim was excellent in breaking down play and gave great effort
Garner keeps getting better
OBrien puts in a great shift despite being played out of position
Tyler Dibling is a weapon
UTFT
28/12/2025 11:59:42
Tony (9) Yes, it was those defeats against Forest and Bournemouth plus the 1-0 at Southampton in November I had in mind. Like yesterdays match they were games we expected to win but lacked the quality to create and convert chances against well organised defences. The creditable draws against Arsenal, Chelsea and City were earned principally through our own well manned defensive play, not forgetting a superb first time finish by Ndiaye at the Etihad.
28/12/2025 12:45:23
Id be delighted to get anything at Forest, John, so safe travels mate because I know that you will definitely be there.
It wont be just me who was reminded of Dyches latter days yesterday John, but looking at players like Dibling, I just cant understand why the manager hasnt tried to introduce him a lot more.
28/12/2025 14:11:25
Don 5
We have in recent years persisted with mediocre players. Look at Pattison !
We did the same with Holgate.
None of these players are worthy of a Royal Blue Jersey, they are absolutely winging it and earning serious money for doing so.
They are sub standard and we just keep running on the spot, with these types and Surely they cant be part of a vision for our Club.
The loss of our usual starters showed glaringly how much Dross THEY are carrying.
Nobody could step up.
Apart from Dibling , There wasnt a performing in there, that could merit 6/10.
28/12/2025 21:03:42
Typical Moyes set up negatively and to play negatively, with no ambition to win the game.He will be happy with the 0-0 result away from home.Thats how far it goes with Moyes.
28/12/2025 21:53:32
The worst game of football I have watched in years.
Two teams that played like it was a Sunday league game.
Totally bereft of ambition or quality.
I just hope Moyes has better options and tactics for the Forest game otherwise it could be embarrassing.
28/12/2025 23:45:24
Paul (15) I thought James Garner was excellent apart from one badly taken corner kick.
Jerome (16) That was not the impression I gained from watching Moyess frustration on the touchline or listening to his post-match comments. There was nothing wrong with the set-up. What was missing were players capable of creating chances and converting them.
29/12/2025 04:15:40
John#18
Moyes can express his frustrations all he likes, but it is him that sets up the team and motivates the players.If his underlying attitude is to prevent the opposition scoring and to employ tactics and players to spoil their play, this is the direct opposite to Everton playing on the front foot with positive ball progression and providing attacking opportunities.
Everton should have been motivated to beat Burnley, anything less was a lack of ambition by Moyes.These same players could put in a better performance next week, when Moyes gets into his head he better do something to win a game.I do not buy into the excuse that the players are not good enough.I saw the game as a typical Moyes offering to get through the Xmas period unscatched.I did see some players who had needed more match time, having been bought during the Summer and only played when Moyes had no other choice.Suddenly they are expected to play in a system that aims to compensate for this.
I am never impressed with a frustrated Manager off the pitch, whilst on the pitch the opposite is happening.Everton can play at Xmas to Kingdom come with Moyes frustrated and never progress beyond the glass ceiling of his fears.
29/12/2025 07:46:57
John Raftery - spot on. What a dreadful game of football. No coincidence that this was the kind of shite we had to endure before Ndiaye, KDH and Grealish graced us with their superior quality.
At least we got a point I suppose. Until we get at least 2 of our talented trio back, it won't be pretty.
29/12/2025 10:39:54
John 18
Yeah, sorry I omitted him, but I did allude to him in my post at 3.
While Im here, Id just like to mention, that I hope Dyche doesnt Rub it in à la DCL!
The thought of hearing and seing his smug face in a pos match presser, leaves me quest!
It seems that the Personell that leave Everton prosper elsewhere.
Antonee Robinson, Moise Kean, Adelina Lookman..
29/12/2025 12:54:35
Jerome - apart from the fact that only Arsenal have won more away games since Moyes took over, Im curious to know how you would have set the team up more positively on Saturday. Im not talking motivational team talk beforehand - Im talking about players, positions and team structure.
29/12/2025 15:18:02
Lets have a glass half full perspective.
Tim I was excellent in midfield, as was Garner.
Dibling had a lot of minutes and was dangerous.
Beto had a difficult chance that he got on target, which was well saved.
Barry had a decent attempt on target which was well saved.
There were no new injuries ( that I am aware of).
29/12/2025 20:26:08
Just to add,
We probably would have beat Burnley had Grealish been fit.
However he was hungover and absolutely spent from a night out on the town in London with old teammate Kyle Walker after the Arsenal defeat and couldnt recover in time. They was partying in Mayfair and later went to a strip club spending thousands of pounds.
Terrible terrible news and the sources are reliable Im afraid.
Just when you thought Grealish was serious about resurrecting himself with hopes of making the World Cup he does something like this.
What a shame, no wonder his form was dipping, apparently it was authorised by Moyes and the club for him to go party after the Arsenal game, which is absolutely appalling, but not surprising really. Oh dear..
30/12/2025 06:01:13
John#22
I am right to criticise the lack of ambition. Against a side like Burnley, in a winnable fixture, Moyes default low-risk, low-block setup often leaves points on the table.He could have set Everton up to be more on the front foot while still staying within his comfort zone.
1. Shape:
From Passive 4-5-1 to Proactive 4-2-3-1. Though this is within Moyes's comfort zone, even a more flexible formation tactics should be the default objective to challenge in the Premier League.What Moyes did was to have a deep defensive line, One isolated striker and
Wingers tracking back first, attacking second and a slow build-up through centre-backs.
The more ambitious alternative:4-2-3-1 with a higher line and tighter spacing with two holding midfielders, but with one given license to step forward, a proper No.10 in position between the lines. This alone improves second-ball recovery,territory and speed of attacks.
2. Midfield Selection:
Less Safety, More Progression.Problem Moyes often pairs two defensive midfielders, Who both sit, neither breaks lines with passes or carries.Even with a progressive midfielder they are told to sit.
Better approach, One ball-winner + one progressive to drive forward, arrive late, and play vertical passes.One midfielder must always look to play forward on first or second touch.That alone speeds the game up.
3. Full-Backs:
Controlled Aggression, not both sitting.Against Burnley, Everton didnt need both full-backs glued to the centre-backs.Instead one full-back pushes high (usually the stronger attacker)
The other tucks in to form a back three in possession.This creates overloads wide pins Burnleys wingers back and gives the winger ahead of him freedom to attack inside.
4. Wingers:
Attack First, Defend Second
Moyes biggest handbrake is wingers starting too deep.First thought is tracking runners.Sometimes they gave up.
Alternative is to start wingers 10–15 yards higher.Tell one to come inside early to support the striker.Encourage early diagonals rather than recycling backwards.
Burnley struggle when turned around,Forced to defend,facing their own goal.Everton didnt test that enough.
5. Pressing:
Situational, not Constant Retreat.Moyes doesnt need to press all the time — but he can press goal kicks, trap Burnley wide, force long balls.set pressing triggers:Back pass to CB.First touch facing own goal, Wide touchline traps.This creates short fields(reducing the usable space on the pitch so that play happens closer to the opponents goal — making it easier to attack and harder for the opposition to escape pressure).more shots.more chaos (which Everton are actually good at)
6. Striker Support:
Stop Leaving Him on an Island One of the most frustrating parts:
Striker wins first ball.No one within 20 yards.Often just handled by the backline.
Fix by No.10 plays within 10 yards of striker
One winger attacks the box early, midfielder arrives late, not cautiously.even without elite creativity, numbers in the box matter.
7.Game State Management:
Go for the Win Earlier.Burnley games are often decided by Momentum swings and Confidence.
Moyes tends to wait until 70+ minutes to change shape A more ambitious manager:
Pushes one midfielder higher at 55–60 minutes,accepts some risk to control territory.makes Burnley defend for sustained periods.
The bottom Line is Moyes didnt need to abandon his principles but he did need to raise the defensive line, speed up ball progression, commit more bodies forward earlier.Against Burnley, safety-first football isnt pragmatism — its missed opportunity.
The selection would be the same as available, Beto to start to push Burnley around, subbed earlier by Barry, but the obvious under development and dare I say it motivation of the summer's young signing is a real drag.Aznou sitting on the bench, thinking what a dickhead Moyes looks on the sidelines, when he should have been selected, having been told publicly that he wasn't up the Premier League standards two months ago is a case in point. Instead of mouthing about not having players, Moyes should have been knuckling down to what he was paid to do
My Conclusion is that preparation is not ambitious enough and Moyes is not even Stage 1.Any so called Stage 2 Manager would find himself very much on square one in this area.
Actually Burnley were pretty useless. A bit more effort and Everton would have coughed up the inevitable defensive error, that Moyes's system produces . That is the real reason Moyes was pacing the sidelines, because he could see that. John you will point to similarities in what you saw, but that is not a plan.A plan that would demand more work out of Finch Farm.
By the way this would have worked against Arsenal. This is Artetas ninth season there and they are not title contenders.
30/12/2025 11:08:45
Jerome (25) On a very minor point of fact, Arteta joined Arsenal in December 2019, on the same weekend Carlo Ancelotti joined us.
From what I saw from Row Z, I would have said the formation was 4-2-3-1 rather than 4-5-1. Mykolenko pushed forward beyond McNeil on several occasions. Around five minutes before half-time Mykolenko, McNeil and Alcaraz were involved in a triangular series of passes on the left of the penalty area. Their hesitancy, probably born of their limitations, resulted in the final ball catching the receiver offside. That moment summed up the gap in quality between first choices, Grealish and Dewsbury-Hall, and their replacements.
On your point about the midfield selection there were only two central midfield players available on Saturday, Garner and Iroegbunam. I thought both tried to make progressive carries at different points in the game. Unfortunately Tim, as he is wont to do, sometimes made the wrong decisions. Wasnt it Garner in the second half who set up the chance for Barry?
Regarding the pressing, I agree in the first half the team failed to press high as frequently as they should have done. I thought that was corrected at half-time with the team noticeably higher up the pitch. That in turn created some issues further back as Burnley started to find space to attack our back line.
On a general point the front six of Saturdays line-up also started the Carabao Cup match at Wolves. Moyes was heavily criticised for selecting those players on that occasion. Little wonder he stuck with his first choice players for as long as he could. As a unit they were found wanting again on Saturday. The quality is just not there.
30/12/2025 13:31:24
John#26
Point taken. Because of the range of the subject I had to go with structures, which I would have preferred not to have done to explain my point. In reality it is more fluid than structure and it is down to how effectively the team is able to implement or has prepared.My main bone of contention is the work that is going into preparation and lack off which has Everton often having a default if being too deep.
The pressing in the second half is were the two structures existed at the same time, the backline being two deep and not having three at the back as Everton progressed forward.
Garner did play well, but was not able to get forward enough with support.Tim's wobbles for me are more to do with how he is exposed and instructed.
In the Caobao cup match Moyes did conform to cautious type throwing on young players who had previously played in a more footballing systems, rather than the containing system that Moyes set up.Players should have been introduced gradually into the team, preferably within a system that played to their strengths.Such Match time would have counted now.
30/12/2025 21:53:36
Thoughts on a 0-2 away win against Nottingham Forest, Jerome? Lots to dig into Moyes selection/motivation/ set up, right?
30/12/2025 22:49:09
What was your own opinion John?
I was very worried before the game but thought we were definitely worth the victory. Some people say the less players that David Moyes, has to pick from the better he does, but thats not something I would agree with.
He his a manager who has always been able to get his team to go out and get some fantastic results against most teams, but hes never been a manager who seems to be able to keep enough of his squad playing enough regular football, which is what everyone needs to stay at the top of their game, imo.
One swallow doesnt make a summer, but Moyes got 31 points, from 19 games with what is perceived to have been a much weaker squad last season. This tells me that we have got some very good players at the club, but if a player doesnt get enough minutes to make him feel wanted and also keep him fit enough to step in and do a good job at the level, then very of them will just be able to step right in and perform.
Use the squad, and with a little bit of luck, it should grow stronger.
30/12/2025 23:21:36
My opinion, Tony, is happiness at yet another well-planned, hard-fought, away win at the hands of David Moyes. As every Everton fan should be feeling tonight.
30/12/2025 00:12:25
Tony (29) This was a stunning victory. With only 30% possession we needed to defend well. The back five were tremendous with OBrien emerging as the strongest defender on the books. Mykolenko was his usual reliable self while Patterson made a good fist of his first start of the league campaign until his legs gave way. He actually looked fatigued after fifteen minutes but somehow managed to reach seventy two minutes.
Dibling showed his class on the ball. His long term potential is huge but he can be a key contributor in the second half of this season. Thierno Barry scored his second goal and while he was starved of service for much of this game he showed quality and pace on the counter. He was rightly delighted to notch his first away goal. McNeil had his best game of the season including an excellent assist for the vital opening goal. Röhl struggled to make an impression in midfield; indeed he looked more confident at right back.
The player who made the most impact however was Jimmy Garner. The fans sang his name repeatedly at the end of the game. He fully deserved the accolades. He was immense.
As you say Tony, it is often thought David Moyes is at his best when his options are severely limited. If that is true, tonight was very much a case in point. This 2-0 win, achieved without four recognised first team starters and with four untried development players on the bench, was against all the odds.
The most credit however belongs to the players. Some of them written off by many fans, produced the goods in a counterattacking performance to savour. Our away form in 2025 has been remarkable for a mid-table outfit. Home games throw up a different challenge. It will be interesting to see if we can carry the momentum from this win into the next three matches at the Hill Dickinson. That is by no means certain.
31/12/2025 12:58:17
Great sense as usual John R, exactly the kind of response I was looking for off John F, who kept it short and right to the point, with his praise for the manager, (well planned! Brilliant) whilst failing to give a few of the players who have been struggling to get a look in, any credit whatsoever!
Its a tight league, win the next two (big ask) and we will probably be within a couple of points of 4th place, with a few of our better players, hopefully being close to returning. But for me, im going to keep continuing to bang the drum, until Im blue in the face, demanding that the manager starts using more of the players in his squad, on a much more regular basis.
31/12/2025 13:19:16
I didnt see the game in full, Tony, so Im not qualified to provide a full in depth critique of each player. The line-up was different, to say the least, but it somehow worked. Not having Grealish to start with seemed to open it up for the others a bit more. Sounds like they took their opportunities well.
31/12/2025 14:19:51
John#28
They played as a unit did all the above against Forest.Against Burley they didn't play as a unit, so what looked like 4-2-3-1 wasn't implemented properly.Patterson, Rohl, O Brien did. help alot. Garner was great in both games.Suppored more by Dibling and McNeil.
It did not happen against Burnley and did against Forest.
31/12/2025 14:35:20
In short, Jerome, Moyes didnt like what he saw from his players against Burnley, so he hooked Beto, rejigged the formation, and without an underwhelming Alcaraz losing control, found a formula that worked. All in the space of three days.
31/12/2025 17:35:35
Yes John that is what happened
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27/12/2025 20:01:55
Sean Dyche memoprial Xmas special. The ghost of Christmas past was hovering over this one.