Some defeats are more painful than others. This one felt like a gut punch. In the grand scheme of things, the point that slipped through Everton’s fingers at the Emirates Stadium this evening might not end up being decisive in the chase for Europe but it would have felt like a victory had they managed to hold on.

The fawning media chatter will all be about Arsenal, the huge step they took towards finally grinding their way to the title, and their 16-year-old prodigy, Max Dowman, who wrested from James Vaughan the mantle of youngest ever Premier league goal-scorer deep into stoppage time. But what will be lost in the conversation is just how close Everton came to pulling off an away-day master class.

For 88 minutes of this televised clash in the Capital, the Toffees were the more deserving of the points. Sure, Arsenal had had the lion’s share of possession but for all their toil, they had been brilliantly stifled by David Moyes’s charges and were the half the width of the post and a freakish piece of improvisation by Riccardo Calafiori away from being a couple of goals down by half-time.

Unfortunately, when Jordan Pickford made a fateful error of judgement just as Everton were closing in on a hard-won point, Lady Luck opted instead for the Gunners, handing Viktor Gyökeres a tap-in to effectively win the match. Dowman then galloped away to score an equally easy goal at the end to give the scoreline a hugely flattering complexion in Arsenal’s favour.

It was rough justice on the Blues because, despite having lost their two first-choice centre-halves to injury to add to the long-term absence of Jack Grealish, they turned in a dogged display; almost impregnable at the back when they needed to be and surprisingly dangerous at the other end when they could be, at least until the latter stages when they were hemmed into their own half for long spells.

Moyes may wonder what might have been possible had he been able to call on a reliable striker capable of holding the ball up or bullying the likes of William Sadiba and Gabriel in the way the Arsenal pair did Beto; others might bemoan his maintaining a defensive posture right to the end but in light of where Everton are in their rebuilding process, this was hugely encouraging.

The Scot’s line-up had an element of makeshift about it with James Tarkowski joining Jarrad Branthwaite in the treatment room after picking up an unspecified training ground injury during the week. James Garner dropped back to right-back with Jake O’Brien shifting inside to centre-half alongside Michael Keane while Tim Iroegbunam got the nod in central midfield.

Dwight McNeil kept his place wide on the right and he’ll no doubt have spent the trip back to Merseyside wondering how he didn’t score. The hosts had established the expected pattern of the contest by dominating possession in the early stages and forcing a couple of corners but the only time they tested Pickford was when he palmed Bakayo Saka’s header past the post superbly before the offside flag swiftly rendered it all moot.

But it was Everton who carved out the first real chance in the 17th minute when Iliman Ndiaye rolled Jurien Timber on the touchline, drove forward and clipped a cross that fell to McNeil whose control and close-range volley looked destined for the net. At first it appeared as though David Raya had made a terrific save but replays showed it was Calafiori who, on his hands and knees, had stuck an instinctive leg in the air to block the winger’s effort.

Everton got the ball back almost straight away and, gliding in from the right flank, McNeil gratefully accepted the space afforded him to line up one of his trademark left-footers that he whipped around Raya but agonisingly off the face of the upright.

Just shy of a quarter of an hour later, after Kai Havertz had had a penalty shout when he went down under Keane’s challenge waved away by referee, Andy Madley, Raya was called into action again when Idrissa Gueye found Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall just outside the box but his shot was pushed away by the goalkeeper.

And despite the Gunners’ superior possession, it was Everton who continued to carve out the genuine chances either side of the break. Ndiaye, outstanding in flashes as always, saw an effort of his own saved on the stroke of half time. Then, four minutes into the second period, a Garner corner dropped to Beto with his back to goal and, having swivelled to get a shot away, he was denied by a smart stop by Raya with his foot by his left-hand post.

It was then that the tide began to turn. Everton had spent most of the game to that point sitting pretty deep in a containment pattern and they would fall back further as Arsenal tried to turn the screw.

It wasn’t until the 64th minute and a first-time curling short by Eberechi Eze, though, that Arsenal really looked like scoring and after Keane had flashed a header from a free-kick at the other end, Eze forced a parrying save from Pickford with a powerful drive while Dowman, on as a 74th-minute substitute for Martin Zubimendi, spooned over from 20 yards with seven minutes to go.

It was shortly after that point that Moyes turned to his bench for a second time, having already brought Thierno Barry on for Beto 17 minutes earlier. Merlin Röhl and Harrison Armstrong were thrown on for Iroegbunam and McNeil but just how much effect that had on what had been a magnificently organised rearguard action to that point is hard to say.

Regardless, having held Arsenal at bay for all bar a couple of minutes of the regulation 90, Everton’s defiance was broken in heartbreaking fashion as their luck deserted them.

Dowman turned inside from the Gunners’ righty and whipped a dangerous ball in that Pickford ill-advisedly made a play for. At full stretch, the keeper could only finger-tip it onto Piero Hincapié who had ghosted in behind Armstrong at the back post and the ball bounced off the Ecuadorian and across the six-yard box where Gyökeres was completely open to score.

Then came the salt in Everton’s wounds. So much of the talk in the week had surrounded Arsenal’s propensity to win ugly and their reliance on set-piece goals but the Toffees had successfully repelled everything they’d thrown at them from dead-ball situations.

Ironically, the North Londoners did score from a corner… Everton’s “Hail Mary” where Pickford was sent up to add an extra body, the set-piece found an Arsenal head and when the ball fell to Downman, he raced away to pass it into the empty goal to put a decidedly unfair gloss on the final score from Arteta’s perspective.

As gutting as this result was, there was so much to admire from this Everton performance — the kind that points to a solid foundation on which to further build this summer. Moyes, perhaps looking at his options at centre-forward, was clearly hoping to protect the point rather than go for the jugular at the end and, ultimately he left with nothing. The neutral observer might say that the spoils went to the team that was actively trying to win it.

That would ignore, of course, the disparity in talent and resources available to the respective sides but even then it was a very close-run thing. On another day and with a touch more fortune Everton might easily have pulled off a shock win that would have kept the title race more interesting than this result appears to have done. Arteta surely knows he got away with one today…



Reader Responses

Selected thoughts from readers
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1  Christine Foster
15/03/2026    06:08:45

It’s hard to be critical of Pickford considering the amount of times he has pulled off worldies to keep us in a game, he will be gutted as too will be the makeshift defensive pairing of O'Brien and Keane who snuffed out everything Arsenal could throw at them.

Lady luck was certainly not on our side today and I have no doubt that come the end of the season when Arsenal lift the trophy they will look back at the game today as the deciding factor. Luck favoured them and to win the league you need skill and luck in abundance. Today they were very lucky because they deserved to lose.

The difference between luck and winning was the ability of players on the bench and our manage’rs reluctance to use until too late. But that is a miserly acknowledgement that Moyes got it so close to being a masters class in beating a better team. Should Everton have won (as they should have) the critics would be hounding Arsenal and ignoring the performance of the better team. Everton.

I cannot and would not have a go at any player today, they put a great shift in, you only had to look at the Arsenal supporters 5 mins before the end, utter misery. But that's football, somedays it goes your way, other times not. If Pickford's fingers were an inch longer.. if a layer of paint on a post was a bit thinner..

2  Jerome Shields
15/03/2026    06:39:04

I just think it is inevitable that when Moyes set up against a Traditional Top six side that a error will cost Everton the game the longer the games goes on.This is especially the case if Everton are one nil up or Moyes is grateful for a draw.That 10 yards deeper is a godsend for a tiring opposition team.They don't even need build up play. All they need is one pass or cross and a error.Seen it so many times.86 games of it.It is just a traditional top six side playing percentage football.

Moyes will continue the same till the end of the season and till the end of time.Too much pressure is put on individual players in defensive positions in Moyes 10 yards deep system.Maybe suitable in the lower divisions, but not in the Premier League where technical skill is high.

Moyes has to have control , he does not have the confidence to play 10yards further up the pitch to win the games.That takes the ability to manage skill, to play the supporting role ,to allow self motivation.

3  Mike Iddon
15/03/2026    08:42:40

Jerome, why does it always have to be about the manager? it’s so tedious. Christine’s final paragraph sums it up, the team were excellent yesterday, well set up to almost get something from the league leaders in their home. It’s frustrating for posters and readers who don’t feel the need to declare their allegiance or otherwise to the manager, find debate overtaken by this obsession. Change the bloody record.

4  Paul Tran
15/03/2026    09:30:35

That game reminded me of the Cup defeat at OT in 1983; an excellent performance undone by Stapleton's injury time winner. Then, as yesterday, missed chances cost the game as much as tactics. We really do need at least one decent striker and a couple of full backs this summer. Going back to 1983, the equivalents of Sharp & Heath would be good...

5  John Raftery
15/03/2026    09:56:23

I don’t recall our team putting on a better performance this season. Indeed we have won matches playing with less intensity and craft than our players showed yesterday.

From the outset Arsenal knew they were facing a strong challenge. Our defence was magnificent with O’Brien and Keane forming a strong partnership in the middle. The oft maligned Mykolenko played his full part, as he usually does when dealing with a top player like Saka while Garner once again demonstrated he is right now the best right back at our club.

The most impressive aspect of our play however was the manner in which we opened up Arsenal in a series of counterattacks in which Ndiaye and McNeil were able to get the better of their markers and pose a real threat to the hosts’ defence. On another day one of McNeil’s efforts goes in leaving Arsenal with a formidable challenge of breaking through our defensive shape not once but twice. That may have been beyond them.

There were moments when we might have made more of our attacks. When Dewsbury-Hall, who had a quieter game than of late, threatened to burst into the box in the second half it took a great challenge by Declan Rice to dispossess him. On the whole Arsenal defended well but they needed to.

This turned out to be one of those days when a title race took a decisive turn with Arsenal, the best team in the country, pushed all the way to win the points. The ecstatic celebrations in the home stands at the end of the game said it all; joy intertwined with considerable relief. We departed obviously disappointed with the result but very proud of our team’s performance.

6  John Raftery
15/03/2026    10:12:03

Paul (4) Do you know what, I was thinking exactly the same. That was the game when the team, arguably for the first time under Howard’s management, showed the highest level of organisation and team work on one of the biggest stages.

We came away from that game defeated, thanks in part to referee Joe Worrall’s faulty time keeping and a slice of ill-fortune in the dying seconds, but optimistic about the future. I felt exactly the same last night. As in 1983 we have players who are still developing. As in 1983 there are a few missing pieces but the squad is steadily improving under a manager who knows what he is doing. As in 1983 there will be bumps in the road ahead but the direction of travel is clear. Onwards and upwards!

7  Christine Foster
15/03/2026    10:48:37

As an aside, I watched David Moyes post match interview in which he was unsurprisingly disappointed but full of praise for the performance. But what struck me was he would not be drawn into any conversation over Branthwaite or Tarkowski regarding injury or whatever. It wasn't the first time he has stonewalled reporters as far as information or lack of it, refusing discussion. He is obviously peeved with something or someone to the point of being blunt.

" I have nothing to say about them"

This is not Moyes the pragmatic diplomat, first his refusal to comment on match officials or decisions, not once but two or three times, then m,pre match conferences where he refuses to comment or is misleading.. something or someone has wound up the scot the wrong way...

8  John Burns
15/03/2026    11:37:44

It’s ‘Everton that’. Not an articulate assessment of the game, but one so many of us identify with. I actually switched off the tv with five minutes to go at 0-0. I knew the script. I knew another, ‘It’s Everton that’ moment was about to come. They didn’t disappoint.

David Niven said of Errol Flynn, ‘One thing you can rely on with Errol, he will always let you down’. Everton have become our Errol.

9  David Bromwell
15/03/2026    12:55:40

I was grateful to be able to watch the full game on TV, although in all honesty I expected a difficult game. My fears got worse when I saw that we had to reorganise our defence. I should not have been concerned as collectively and individually the team were great and everybody played their part in a very professional display of skill and effort.

As is always the case the match raised a number of issues and opinions will differ, but for me there were three key things that influenced the eventual outcome. Sadly the first goal came from a rare mistake from Pickford, who uncharacteristically came off his line for a ball when normally he would have stayed put. These things happen and it would be unreasonable to blame him.

The second issue for me was the now familiar change of centre forwards. Upto that point I thought Beto had done really well, against two very tough centre backs. However, I didn't think Barry was up to the task, and didn't fancy the rough stuff. The other substitutions were all in my view made too late with the three players concerned given collectively less time on the pitch than 16 year old Dowman.

Finally of course there was the unnecessary and in my view stupid give away second goal. That resulted in an unjustified bonus for Arsenal, and I hope we don't see our Goalkeeper abandoning his goal again.

10  John Fitzgerald
15/03/2026    13:51:39

Should’ve brought on George as a centre forward instead of Barry and much earlier. Not only is he clearly a more talented player with a great shot on him, he’s a Camden boy so would’ve relished playing against his boyhood local club.

11  Lyndon Lloyd
15/03/2026    15:06:08

David (9), had anyone other than Dowman scored that second goal, it wouldn’t have been such a thing. The reason why teams send the keeper up is that losing 2-0 as opposed to 1-0 doesn’t matter much versus the hope that an extra body gives you the edge at a corner.(Would have helped if the delivery had been better, of course.)

As it is, we’ve given something for the media to just milk to death while also robbing James Vaughan of his long-standing record. It was going to fall at some point but annoying it did in a game involving us.

And I disagree on Beto. I thought apart from that one chance where he forces the save from Raya, he was awful. Was bullied all game by Saliba and Gabriel, couldn’t hold anything up and won nothing in the air. Barry won a few headers but otherwise wasn’t much better. We need to address the centre-forward role as a matter of urgency.

12  David Bromwell
15/03/2026    16:17:48

Apologies Lyndon I think you are wrong on both issues. A one nil defeat by Arsenal at their own ground, with them on top of the league and us without two of our regular defenders would have been a great result. Not just for us Fans but also for the players and the manager. Instead we simply gifted them the second goal, by sending our goalkeeper into an already over crowded penalty area, to my mind that's just plain stupidity.

Yes I do agree we need an upgrade at centre forward, but Beto played his part yesterday. Throughout the game he was given very rough treatment by the Arsenal centre backs but he kept them occupied which allowed our more skilful players space and opportunity. Barry maybe the more skilful player but he is often short of commitment, and he clearly doesn't like the rough and tumble.

However, I am grateful as always to have the opportunity for open debate and discussion.

13  Lyndon Lloyd
15/03/2026    16:26:04

No need to apologise for disagreeing — were here to discuss and debate as you say 👍

I take your point about Beto occupying their defenders but live for the day we have more than that up front (again, not saying Barry is or will be the answer but he clearly needs a lot of time).

Re the end, there are no more points or that much more honour in losing 1-0 as opposed to 2-0. Throwing the keeper up rarely works but if Pickford had played a part in us getting a dramatic equaliser, it would clearly have been worth it. I’d much rather we go for it than try and escape with just a 1-0 defeat.

Fortune often favours the brave, although Lady Luck clearly chose to reward Arteta’s bold decision over Moyes’s!

14  Dave White
16/03/2026    00:39:15

Just to pick up the above, if you took the best bits of Beto and Barry then you might end up with someone worthy of leading our line. Barry does have youth on his side and may improve and he’s still new to the prem…I honestly don’t see Beto changing much.

I think we need to take a risk in the summer and splash the cash for a prem ready striker with a track record (I do appreciate there’s not many of those around, and less still who’d want to join us). But with a decent top half finish and the recent years’ circus hopefully behind us, the club is definitely a more attractive destination for new blood.

As heartbreaking as the result was yesterday, I thought that was the best we’ve executed a game plan for some time. Obviously we didn’t have much of the ball, but we regularly threatened Arsenal’s goal, especially in the first half. The Gunners will know they’ve got away with one there.

We need to keep some context here. Away to top of the league and having to change both centre backs…I’m really encouraged and feel that we could be on the cusp of something really exciting with this team.

15  Antony Abrahams
16/03/2026    07:35:30

There were moments when we might have made more of our attacks: No surprises that such a statement is coming from John Rafferty, because that was the only real downside to last night’s performance, bar the mistake that probably cost us a valuable point.

I didn’t think Beto, was great Lyndon, but at least he was there. It honestly felt like we lost a lot of momentum when Barry, came on though because he offered us absolute zero, imo.

Let’s stay positive, I can still remember the disappointment when Frank Stapleton, scored that goal in 1983, and the roar inside Old Trafford, was something that became permanently etched into my brain.

I was surprised at how well Everton, had performed that day, but not as surprised as how well we performed at Wembley against Liverpool, around twelve months later in the league cup final.

We badly need to have a good transfer window this summer because I genuinely think there are some big opportunities for any team that can get it right and start producing a lot of consistently in what has become a very average league?

16  Jerome Shields
16/03/2026    08:30:25

Mike#3

Expected a comment like yours, and it is alright to have that view.Unfortunatekt it is as it is as I see it. Moyes will achieve midtable stability and nothing more than that.That was what he was brought in to do.The real work is the TFG background changes and how they manage cultural change.

From the start of his appointment some of posters forecast the above and now largely accept his role.For me the sad thing is that with a little change Moyes may have a team to challenge the above and compete a step up, but he would have to take on the Culture he is part off for any real success.I actually thought that he would have changed and learnt on his travels. He didn't and won't.Some may say he had European success, but step one was lower at West Ham and he had a spine of seasoned Professionals.He hasn't at Everton as TFG plan is to build a team beyond his tenure and not to give him seasoned professionals on long contracts.TFG know about that from their bad experiences at Roma.

I think we have a good squad of players, better than most, including Moyes, give credit for.

17  Mike Iddon
16/03/2026    09:10:22

Jerome #16, sorry you are appearing tone deaf and completely missed the point of my post. Of course it’s ok for you or anyone to have your opinion of the manager, it’s just that we don’t need to hear it every bloody time.

18  Christine Foster
16/03/2026    10:40:39

Not my intent to be critical of the game but on reflection there are a few things of note which would be worth comment.
First off the long punt from Pickford to our ailing centre forwards seems to be a lesser used tactic, indeed it's a mute point as to its continual effectiveness anyway. This perversely highlights how ineffective both Beto and Barry are on the deck. Beto's main attribute it to run onto passes and physically grapple / compete for the ball anything other than that then his effectiveness drops off the cliff. He certainly puts a shift in but struggles to be effective.
Barry has a better touch and lay off but he too often looks like Bambi, or just fails to make any impact on defenders. Especially the better ones.
So, a rethink.
If we are not playing long balls out all day, we don't need a hit man all the time. Watching Richarlison hassle the crap out of Liverpool was a joy to watch, but we haven't got a Richarlison (yet?) But we have got George. Certainly as a tactical option rather than a like for like..fast, hungry and can strike a ball, why not?
We need to be different because neither Beto or Barry are impacting games, sub one for the other is a waste ot time.

19  James Hourigan
16/03/2026    12:07:48

I suspect many of us were not looking forward to the match, but in the cold light of day and doing some reflecting, we can probably say the performance was both unexpectedly good and we were unlucky to come away with nothing. I too feel neither Beto nor Barry is the answer and whilst they are our only options we will struggle to score and win matches with any degree of comfort.

One other thing that stands out for me more and more is Moyes' substitutions - or lack of. I genuinely believe he does not recognise that the game is now a squad game and that planning how to use 13 or 14 or even 16 players is the most effective way to move forward in the modern game.

Too often his substitutions are so late to become pointless - George on Saturday with 90 secs left ??? Others always seem to be like for like - Barry/ Beto etc. or made when we are chasing the game instead of seemingly planned. It seems like he picks his best 11 on Friday to get the result he wants, and then it's almost blind stubbornness and those on the bench were not picked Friday, so there's no point them coming on as they can't change the match and his game plan.

His reluctance to use his bench, until forced to, for me highlights a lack of flexibility and a narrow mind set. McNeil played well for 70 mins but he and Tim were clearly tiring in midfield as Arsenal began to get more and more on top. We needed fresh legs in midfield sooner rather than later to try and get us upfield before the almost inevitable error occurred through tiredness. Both players were short of matches so tiredness should have been predicted, planned for midweek, and executed efficiently.

Sadly this scenario is one that plays out far too often for me. The game has moved beyond 11 vs 11 but has Moyes' thinking truly moved beyond it? We have players like Rohl, Dibling. George and Anzou that in all honesty none of us know (including Moyes), if they will hack it in the Premier League. Planned, effective and constructive use of them will be the only way we will find out but is he open enough to see it ?

20  Christine Foster
16/03/2026    12:30:00

James, no.

21  Jerome Shields
16/03/2026    12:35:11

Mike#17

Was going to put it in as a article, but decided against it.This appears to have been the right decision. Repeats can be a problem with Moyes.

22  Peter Fearon
16/03/2026    16:52:50

James@19. I think it odd that you believe that an experienced manager like Moyes who also has several knowledgeable coaches to advise him does not realise modern football is a squad game. If you are right, and I don’t think you are, that is a serious criticism which makes one wonder why Moyes has been around so long.
Managers and coaches assess players in training and their performance informs them of their readiness for first team action. That is an important part of their job.
There will always be arguments about when substitutes should be used but it is impossible to state with certainty if earlier introduction would lead to a better end result.

23  Christine Foster
16/03/2026    20:54:46

I had carpal tunnel surgery recently, sodding painful both before and after so I'm not getting much kip, a consequence is that I've been over thinking life, and that includes David Moyes. Like dawn, light eventually breaks through as the penny drops and spins hypnotically.
David Moyes has been and always will be a 70% manager, some days 60, someday a little better. But generally he does the basics very well, that's consistency, what's on the tin. It's also why people like me wanted him back because his consistency is better than what Dyche and other managers could give us. It's why we needed him to get more out of what we had or have. Better than most but not good enough to continually challenge. He builds good teams, 70% good teams, also not quite good enough to challenge. Other clubs thought he could push on with the teams they had, but in the end they came to realise that as good as he is, it's not enough.
We are seeing it again with new owners, but I can't decide if they are happy with 70% of very good or if they believe he can push on.
In the meantime we get glimpses of what could be, and ther times what we are. Never mind the really off days.
Those of us long in the tooth crave for an inspiration 80% manager who can take us to the top table again but realise, no matter how good Moyes man management is, he is no Ancelotti or Pep tactically and always seems to fall gallantly in those crucial moments.

So I guess that's why Moyes is so bloody frustrating and why 6,7th or 8th is not bad for a 70% club. But surely we can be better than that? We need to be an 80% plus club to be up there but I don't think I've got another 11 years in the cold to wait.

24  Peter Fearon
16/03/2026    23:01:14

Christine, the issue is: does Moyes get as much as possible from the squad he has got? I would argue that he does. The top clubs have spent a lot to recruit much better players, but even that does not guarantee success. See Newcastle U, Man U, Spurs for example. How many 80%+ managers do you see currently in the Premiership?

25  Christine Foster
17/03/2026    04:12:03

Peter, does Moyes get the most from the team? Yes, from the squad? No. Undoubtedly he gets more than Dyche did which was my point. But surely we want to see a squad with the talent to win or seriously challenge for a trophy. We are nowhere near that with Moyes or the squad yet TFG have given Moyes the keys to the kingdom by giving him the responsibility for recruitment and rebuild. Will he be successful? His track record indicates a better than average result but not successful at the highest level.
There are no brilliant managers in the Premier League, it's a mix of talent available, man management, tactical skill and money. That's just what's needed to get to 80%! Never mind luck, bias of officials or a stacked set of protectionist rules.

26  John Fitzgerald
17/03/2026    10:23:46

Have you got any names of managers you think, by now, could’ve reached your 80% threshold, be in trophy contention, and be in the top 5 after two transfer windows - all following years of chronic mismanagement, Christine?

27  James Hourigan
17/03/2026    10:40:27

Peter, I understand some of where you're coming from but let me make the following points. On statistics this season - 3 measures - 1. Number of substitutes used 2. Timing of substitutions ie how late in the game 3. Impact of substitutions ie goals scored or created (all non injury stats). For all 3 Everton are in the bottom 3. So what does that tell us about our use of subs? Significantly these stats or almost mirrored by West Ham during his tenure there.

Secondly, more subjective and visual I agree, but as I watch matches unfold at home and feel the need for change or something different as we struggle, I see Moyes stood alone by the pitch side. Do I see him going to his coaches and discussing options as you suggest should /might happen? Do we see him meaningfully prepare players to come on (beyond the regulation run up and down the touchline) until panic sets in? I do see him berate officials and show passion but is that enough for our manager? Whilst I know all managers are different, but when you see other managers being proactive and creative against us it grates to see Moyes standing there shouting at the officials or just trying to encourage. He's paid an awful lot of money and in my opinion should be doing a hell of a lot more with the players at his disposal.

28  Christine Foster
17/03/2026    11:10:29

John, don't be daft, as I said in my previous post it's a combination of ALL elements that get you to the 80% mark. But you have to start putting those elements together to reach that potential. That begins with a manager who has a winning pedigree, the problem with the EPL is the outside of a handful of the top teams, no manager will get the opportunity of time, money and resources to get to their, or the clubs potential.
Can you imagine what Ancelotti would have been capable of with TFG backing instead of the incompetence we had? Find someone who even comes close to that means outside of UK, it will take 3 years to get back to where we belong, we know all to well Moyes limitations, his capabilities and expectations, as well as he has done, I believe on the basis of his previous time with us, his management record since and his subsequent second spell, that he is not the man to bring us silverware.
Just because I don't know the qualities of individuals who may fill the management boots, does not mean I should accept he is the best option either.

29  John Fitzgerald
17/03/2026    13:21:50

With respect, Christine, I don’t think seeking to contextualise your argument is daft at all.
Yes, you’re right in that turning us into a truly competitive club is a process that will take a few seasons to achieve. And maybe he’s not the manager to win trophies. But as part of that building process, and TFG backing over several transfer windows, it would take a particularly negative take on Moyes to assume that when he does hand the reins over to his successor, (and I’d say he’ll see out his contract and go), that for the first time for 20 odd years, he’s handing over an absolute mess. A reasoned observer would assume that, like last time, it’ll be a well-balanced squad capable of beating anyone on their day. He’s over a year into his contract, still frustrating as ever but punching above everyone’s expectations. It’s a process. Let’s see what we look like with a decent striker and two flying fullbacks before writing his obituary.
As for Ancelotti - he was given a very healthy spending budget and ended up 10th.

30  Peter Fearon
17/03/2026    16:09:44

James, your statistics, if correct, do not tell us as much as you think. Perhaps given the subs at his disposal the timing of his substitutions is rational. If we were again flirting with relegation on could argue that chances should be taken, but we are not. Our league position given our resources is good. Does West Ham’s current manager have a more adventurous view on subs? How are they doing? Your figures do not tell us that Moyes is incorrect in his use of subs.
I don’t understand your final paragraph. If you examine the touch line behaviour of successful managers it varies considerably.

31  Kevin Molloy
17/03/2026    16:34:41

Christine
you write as if Moyes has been here for years, had the time to build up a squad in his image, and been given a few chances to see if he can smash the 'glass ceiling'. He actually arrived at a relegation haunted team last season, and since then has performed minor miracles. If, in two years time, we are still eighth, I think you could say 'fair's fair, but maybe we need something different'.
After the disappointment of watching that spawny goal, I am now just pleased with the performance. We only gave up a point after all, not the end of the world. Amazing that our two first choice centre backs can drop out, and we can proceed without missing a beat. I thought it was a significant game for Tim, he really held his own against Rice and showed he has a future in the top flight. Barry, not so much. I'll be surprised if he gets more than 15 minutes from now till season end, when he'll be sold.

32  Christine Foster
18/03/2026    02:52:15

Kevin, normally I would sort of agree with your post except for the obvious point that Moyes HAS been here for years and we know what he is capable of / or how he operates. My perspective, is, and always has been since I advocated him as a replacement for Dyche, was that he would get more out of the squad (which he has) that would get us out of the relegation battle (which he has) and would eventually get us back to a "Best of the rest" standing (which we will most likely achieve next season). In short he has done what I expected / hoped he would BUT he never broke the glass ceiling before, bottled the big games and is risk averse in tactics, substitutions and purchases. Its why I added the proviso for my recommendation that his appointment be short term only. I wasn't alone with that view, I'm not now.
We are so relieved to catch a breather after the past few years that people happily accept stability and trade off ambition. I would love to know what Dan Friedkin plans, objectives and vision for the club is, how and when he expects us to get there. But as Mike G said right at the start of the takeover, TFG are not the most communicative owners. Nothing changes in that respect.
But if we are 8th in two seasons time I would be livid. Hardly a ringing shout of protest, "maybe we need something different" is it?
I don't expect us to be winning titles next year, but I would like to see a plan with expectations and how we will get there, what team investment will be made and a succession plan for David Moyes.

33  Jerome Shields
20/03/2026    06:40:59

Christine # 32

Agree with everything you say.

I don’t think Moyes gets the maximum out of his players. His whole approach is built around a rigid system, where individuals are expected to fit predefined roles rather than the system adapting to their strengths. It creates structure and discipline, but it also limits expression and, ultimately, the team’s ceiling.

That ceiling, for me, is mid-table. You might get consistency and the odd strong run, but it rarely develops into anything more ambitious or progressive. It feels like a setup that maintains itself rather than evolves.

The backroom staff seem aligned with that approach too. There’s a sense that the status quo works for everyone internally, even if it doesn’t push the club forward.

Where it becomes most frustrating is with young players. Development appears secondary, with opportunities usually coming only through injury or necessity. Even then, those players are expected to slot into the system rather than grow into something more expressive or creative.

Moyes is, without doubt, an upgrade on a relegation-level manager. But if the aim is long-term progression, especially through youth, Everton still feel like a club that hasn’t properly recovered from the stagnation of years of selling off and relegation dogfights.

It really comes down to a choice: is the priority stability, or is it progression? At the moment The former is the priority for TFG, as it should be given that Everton are still coming out of the debacle period of pure bad woeful Club Management,PSR, nearly taken over by a baseball cap suit wearing lunatic and the Moshiri,friend of Jimmy White with the yellow and Pullovers ( wearing and Fan treatment)

Best Wishes Christine and keep plaguing the Doctors.I once asked a 110 year old year old Woman the secret of a long life.She replied avoid dieing.


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