On their day of reckoning, West Ham United did their job but as they cast their eyes six miles up the road to North London, the unhappy Hammers will have seen that any faith they’d held in Everton holding up their end of the proverbial bargain to help keep them up had been badly misplaced.

Most Evertonians could have told them as much in the days leading up to the final day of a 2025/26 season which has held so much promise at times for the Blues but which came to a sorry end this afternoon with a fourth defeat in six that left the club languishing in the rank mediocrity of 13th place.

A side almost completely unchanged from the one that has squandered a golden opportunity to qualify for Europe toiled through a familiarly unproductive first half, yet again conceded from a corner in the meekest of manners and failed to muster a single shot on target until deep into second-half stoppage time.

It was as pathetic as this supposed late charge for the top eight has been since the destruction of Chelsea at Bramley-Moore Dock in March, a period in which David Moyes’s side have been in relegation form. In their place, Sunderland, a club who were in League One as recently as 2022 and who only came up from the second tier a year ago, will join Bournemouth in the Europa League next term.

Last weekend’s sorry capitulation to the Black Cats by the docks had brought Moyes’s future into sharp focus and, just like that 3-1 reverse, this game threw up ample pretext for ditching the current manager this summer, despite CEO Angus Kinnear’s assertion that the hierarchy are “happily dissatisfied” with the club’s “progress” under the 63-year-old:

The decision to drop the Toffees’ top scorer, Beto; Everton’s lethargic start to the contest; the concession of the game’s only goal to a poorly-defended corner; the lack of any patterns of play or identifiable plan to score; and the fact that the only effort on target in the entire 90 minutes came from Tyrique George, a player to whom Moyes has steadfastly refused to give enough minutes to make a difference.

In the end, Tottenham just needed to score once to complete the double over Everton for the season and ensure their Premier League status despite the Hammers' 3-0 victory over Leeds. Spurs's supporters had, no doubt, approached the day with fear and trepidation but their opponents made life very easy for them for 90 minutes before belatedly turning up in injury time for a too-little-too-late attempt at at least rescuing a point.

Spurs dominated possession and went close to making an early breakthrough when Conor Gallagher smashed a shot into the side-netting after Everton couldn’t clear a set-piece. Kevin Danso lashed wide shortly afterwards as, again, the visiting defence failed to clear their lines.

Indeed, much of what Everton did was insipid and careless, with the likes of Tim Iroegbunam, Merlin Rohl, Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall and Iliman Ndiaye guilty of sloppy use and retention of the ball, although the Senegalese did go on one trademark mazy run, only to see his shot charged down and diverted behind.

Meanwhile, the hosts kept probing and Joao Palhinha sliced a good chance over at the back post, Jordan Pickford had to punch away Djed Spence’s dangerous cross while, later, Danso could only head into his team-mate Richarlison from a decent position.

The decisive moment eventually arrived from yet another corner, though. Palhinha was allowed to rise unimpeded at the back post where he thumped a header off the woodwork but was alive to the rebound which he steered through a clutch of static blue shirts and over the line.

That the second period was such a non-event given the potential for drama that West Ham’s increasing lead was creating at the London Stadium was a damning indictment of how badly Moyes’s Everton have fallen away in the final seven games of the season.

Jordan Pickford spilled a Spence shot awkwardly behind shortly after half-time and nothing of any note happened until Moyes turned to his bench to introduce George together with Harrison Armstrong for Röhl and Jake O’Brien and Dewsbury-Hall won a corner in the 67th minute that, typically, came to nothing.

It wasn’t until the 86th minute that Everton seriously threatened Antonin Kinsky’s goal when Charly Alcaraz, belatedly introduced for Dewsbury-Hall a couple of minutes earlier, pushed into the box and Michael Keane's clever flick played George in but Micky van Der Ven did well to snuff out the chance before the final pass could reach Beto.

As the match ticked into nine minutes of added time, Keane flashed a header over the bar, Alcaraz narrowly missed with a header of his own before George forced an excellent save from Kinsky with the last chance.

With Fulham beating Newcastle at Craven Cottage, Everton’s 15th defeat of the campaign means that they finish exactly where they did last year — 13th and only one point better off despite having spent £140m last summer and all the optimism that the team’s record had engendered heading into the last international break.

All the good will and currency that Moyes had built for steering the club to the brink of European qualification has now largely been frittered away by an alarmingly languorous and characterless run-in to the season and it leaves supporters questioning Everton’s direction under a manager who has seemingly lacked any answers to arrest the slide.

At the moment, it’s hard to escape the feeling that it all portends yet more frustration and stagnation and not the new era that was promised when The Friedkin Group took the reins.

Kinnear’s eye on “stability” and his public backing of Moyes mean that the Scot’s position is probably safe but it is going to be another hugely important summer for the Blues regardless of who is in charge come the kick-off to 2026/27.



Reader Responses

Selected thoughts from readers
Certain off-topic comments may be removed to keep the discussion on track

1  Jerome Shields
24/05/2026    20:17:00

Just watched Moyes's post press conference. He obviously could not care less. Bullshitted from beginning to end. I don't even think he would care if sacked. He is not being honest in that conference.

It Is the same old sop. Still think he will survive, but Finch Farm have cut it fine this time.

2  Kieran Fitzgerald
24/05/2026    20:26:33

Insipid and careless, two words that sum it up perfectly Lyndon.

The fact that the players seem to have stopped trying or make any proper effort since the Chelsea game seems frightening in a way. It's seems that there was no fight or pride or determination in them. What makes it worse is that Europe was there for the taking. After all the relegation battles, this was an opportunity for these players to enjoy their job again, to play for something more than just not being relegated. Instead they just gave up. Just stopped trying in any meaningful way.

As much as I don't want another season of Moyes, I don't want these players coming back to pre-season with the same mentality and attitude to their job.

Is it down to Moyes alone, is it down to a long standing core of senior players, is it the culture at Finch Farm, is it the coaching staff?

Damned if I know but right now next season already looks to be a disaster. A hugely important summer indeed.

3  Jerome Shields
24/05/2026    20:40:17

Don't normally comment on Referee decisions, but Moyes evoked two of them as the excuse for Everton's table finish. I would sack him for that.

4  Alan schofield
24/05/2026    20:46:21

I've got a friend who is a West Ham supporter. I apologised to him 2 days ago and said if you're relying on Everton you're doomed. At least Spurs didn't need to up their goal difference otherwise we'd have been thrashed. So Everton.

5  Paul Birmingham
24/05/2026    20:54:57

In the same note of last week, this was a diabolical pathetic Everton display.

The club should refund everyone who went last week and this week.

Seriously debilitating defeats and relegation form, these last couple of months.

The back 4, needs clearing out, the pressure keg, is not helped by their shambolic displays in the last 8 games.

Rumoured Mikalenko, has signed for another 3 years.

3 assists in 4 years, even when he doesnt forget his compass, he gets lost on the pitch.

If Moyes is doing commentary in the World Cup, preseason, doesnt bode well.

Its sadly become so predictable watching Everton and its numbing to see the season effectively finish at the end of March.

Not picking Beto to start,against a very poor Spurs defence, only Mr Moyes knows.

Well another season, and glad its over.
Tbh, Everton havnt done a full 95 min domination og a fane thus season.

This squad needs a refit, but it wont be easy.

How will Everton attract new players to sign, will be interesting.


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6  Jerome Shields
24/05/2026    21:16:44

Actually with the World Cup commentary spot, Moyes is taking the piss.

7  Mick Quirke
24/05/2026    21:24:36

3 points from 21 games. 12 goals conceded. Not a single tactical or formational change in those 7 games. Not a single attempt on target today.

How can he possibly stay?

Spurs had had no home clean sheets this season. They've taken 6 points from us

8  Mick Quirke
24/05/2026    21:26:14

Last 2 months have been torture. He's taken away all the pleasure there ever was this season (which wasn't that much).

9  Dennis Stevens
24/05/2026    21:38:56

Moyes is so full of shite, he should be politician.

10  Neil Lawson
24/05/2026    21:48:23

If the team selection today was damning, how do you describe the failure to make any changes at half time following such a dreadful and pathetic first half performance?

There can not be one single Evertonian who thought the starting 11 was justified following recent dreadful performances. Nor can there be a single Evertonian or football fan who could justify the intransigence at half time.

That being so, is there any justifiable reason to continue paying a manager who is patently inept and well past his sell-by date?

11  David Bromwell
24/05/2026    21:52:28

There may have been a lack of effort from the players today, it's hard to tell, but as a team they were simply shambolic. Quite why the Manager once again did not select at least two or three of his fringe players it's hard to fathom, and perhaps as a result we have finished the season in the same position as the last one, which suggests zero progress.

It seems to me that there is much to do during the close season, yet Moyes is off to America, on a World Cup jolly. Does that mean the Recruitment People will sign more players that the Manager doesn't fancy and as a result never plays them ? It's not a good look to me.

12  Philip Sheehan
24/05/2026    21:55:35

So this was Moyes trying his best to save his beloved West Ham Utd from relegation?! Oh and also move us up the league too? We all know his failings plus TFG seem to be indifferent to all things Everton.

Then add Angus Kinnear and his world class recruitment team to the mix and it's all depressing for us Blues.

Oliver Glasner would be my choice as a replacement.

The last 3 games have been pathetic and it looks like Dour Davie has lost the dressing room.b Bt then again this is the worst group I have seen in a blue shirt in over 50 years of watching Everton...

Anyway got the polite version off my chest

13  Paul Conway
24/05/2026    21:58:16

Jerome # 1

I have stopped watching Moyes post match pressers for the last few weeks, just as I’d stopped watching Dyche’s, a few months before his long overdue exit.

The sound bytes and the twisted Narrative become cringy and a complete Yawn fest!

When this happens, ( with myself anyway), it more times than not, doesn’t Augur well and the outcome is inevitable.

Now I’m sure that a large majority of the Fanbase, doesn’t have much confidence in Barry, who had numerous chances to prove the outrageous ( given his performances), amount of cash, handed over for his services!

We paid well over the odds, given this player was rejected by Hamilton Accademicals!!

All, that said,I would like to know what Moyes saw in him, to leave him on the pitch, for over 80 plus minutes, when it was clear, that he should have been pulled at the Twenty minute mark, at least.

Up until those first twenty minutes, Spurs odds on winning, must have plummeted, from 11/10 ish before kick off, to at least 1/3 against.

We were absolutely pathetic.

In fact, when O’Brien got his second yellow, on the 13th minute, in consecutive games, for the same offence.. grappling with a player, who was about to leave him in his jet- streams, on the wing!!

After that incident, the writing was very early on the wall.

The comedy act between O’Brien and Rõhl down the right was embarrassing.

The substitutions or, lack therof, and the Timings, showed that Moyes hasn’t got a Clue.

He introduces, George, a player who has skill and speed combined, in the last few minutes, when we were crying out for a player of his type.

It’s not the first time that he introduced George as a substitute late in the game.

He did it three games on the trot, where he replaced the useless McNeil, yet McNeil had an Automatic start in the ensuing games… a total head- wobbler !

Now, what confuses me, is his insistence on starting the leggy Liability, which is Iroegbunam, who is a very average player and should be nowhere near a Team, with ambitions like ours.

I really hope that we can offload some of these dreadful players, including the manager, who without doubt, if we don’t, will have us in another relegation battle, Come the end of next Season.

Personally, for myself and looking back, in my opinion only, I think the two players, who came out of our last 6/7 games, with any Kudos are, Garner and Ndiaye.

Personally my feelings, since Moyes rerun, are, I feel like I lost a shilling and found a sixpence.. with fell out of my hand and rolled down the Drain!!

The majority of the rest, to save some money, can share a collective Uber.. including the Manager !

14  Jamie Sweet
24/05/2026    22:13:35

Tyrique George has looked very bright in all of his 5 minute cameos. I think he'd be a great addition to the team, but if Moyes is in charge next season, why on earth would he want to stay? In fact, why would any young wonder kid want to come to Everton with Moyes in charge? You just wouldn't would you?!

Look at players like Kroupi and Rayan at Bournemouth. They would have played 30 minutes between them under Moyes.

Safety first might get you exactly that - safety. But it won't get you progress.

I salute you for your service Mr Moyes, but I think you've served your purpose and it's time to go.

15  Harry Hockley
24/05/2026    22:40:02

Well thank goodness this season is over. After such a promising start to the season it’s been a major disappointment to see it peter out the way it has.

There’s obviously many factors that have contributed to the late season capitulation and Moyes is definitely one of them, however it’s not solely his fault.

Could he have changed the back four? Why didn’t Patterson get minutes instead of persisting with O’Brien? Could he have changed formations? Could he have made better subs? No plan b.

Fact is we don’t know the answers, I’m sure there are valid reasons for the lack of change but also he’s done himself no favours with how he has conducted himself as the season progressed, his attitude and application has frustrated me more than anything I’ve mentioned previously, no wonder the players look dejected.

I feel losing Grealish was a major factor in our demise as he influenced other players to up their game and also took a lot of pressure off a flimsy defence, we was never the same team after. Obviously there was other injuries to important players which had a big impact (Braintwaite) and the lack of depth was evident there after.

Finally the biggest problem.
Recruitment.
Recruitment needs a major restructuring from top to bottom, we haven’t had a good recruitment system for as long as I can remember and it’s really catching up to us. TFG have their work cut out this summer, they way the season ended may just of changed their minds on Moyes but I’ll still be surprised if they moved him on as regardless of his failings he has delivered one thing which was needed. Yes you guessed it. Stability! A word which has come up quite often this season.

I’m guessing TFG give him a warchest of money to spend and say here you are David for your success in bringing stabilisation but if we don’t see improvement by Xmas..well you know the rest.

16  Peter Hoban
24/05/2026    22:43:26

After the Chelsea game I, along with everyone leaving the ground totally made up, was convinced we were not only Europe bound but with a good chance of champions league football.

The seven games that followed left me angry, crushed, distraught and, as we approached the Spurs game, totally disillusioned and fully aware that we would lose.

What really gets my goat though is the knowledge that Moyes will be in charge next season, playing the same tactics and a lot of the same players whilst continuing to ignore youth.

Today we started the game in such a sluggish manner that handed the initiative to them.
It’s not the first time this season we have started that way and I don’t understand why that hasn’t been addressed by the manager.

It doesn’t matter who we sign in the transfer window we will continue to play the same way until he leaves.

17  Jerome Shields
24/05/2026    22:55:53

Paul#13

I hadn't watched a Moyes press conference for a while, but was struck immediately with his don't care blasé attitude and objective of putting his twisted narrative across.I found it totally cynical on his part. I won't be watching another one. Watching the match I just felt a complete lack of effort in preparation and motivation.

It actually crossed my mind that delays in substitutions where Moyes not taking the risk that things would have got worse.It would have been a absolute travesty had Everton got an equaliser with the only shot on target in the 93rd minute.

It won't be a surprise to West Ham fans , they know how reliable he is.

18  Paul Conway
24/05/2026    23:12:38

Peter # 16

I too was Buoyed and full of optimism after the Chelsea Game, as I’m sure a huge percentage of the Fans were of the same opinion.

But, in retrospect, Hindsight and all the rest of it.. how bad are Chelsea?

Then, we were brought down to planet earth, by a manager who relies heavily on experience
And reliability.

And what does that come with ?.. age!!
If you haven’t guessed it.

So, I am certain that going forward, if Moyes is in Charge, those rumours about John Stones could well be true.

In essence, Moyes, is no Different From Dyche.
Belt and Braces for reassurance.

I mean, Why would they wear a pair of sliders, while they have the same old faithful Slippers?

19  Steve O'shaughnessy
25/05/2026    03:30:10

I was definitely in the camp of Moyes has done a credible job and was just happy not to be in the middle of a shit show again. Not any more...his time is done or should be. We have the makings of a decent team and the Chelsea game showed what was possible but the last series of games have been deeply depressing. We can only hope it doesn't leak into the start of next season. I fear it will though

20  Jan steiner
25/05/2026    05:48:16

Moyes - didn't want him back, now want him gone. Whichever way you slice it, he's a liability. A manager needs passion (see De Zerbi) and needs to pass that onto the players. Moyes - never gonna happen.

21  Frank Sheppard
25/05/2026    07:09:55

What a joyless, frustrating rubbish end to the season.
I am a DM fan, but I can’t believe he kept putting out the same team/players, when it was clearly not working, making it so easy for the opposition.
If we found it difficult to recruit last summer as we had no European football, it will be even harder this summer.
It’s not been a mid table safety kind of year, it’s been a very worrying direction of travel season.

22  Jerome Shields
25/05/2026    07:26:43

It is not as easy as just getting rid of Moyes.He will even happily go with his approx £10 million severance package.Moyes is the figurehead and product of a backup regime that has had the same playbook for years under numerous Managers. They even done it to the almighty Ancelotti. Everton have had numerous seasons when Everton went on holiday in April,after a reduction in workload with Cup exists in January, as they have done this season.

In the modern game it is not the Manager Alone it is the recruitment and training system that is a important. All then is needed is a good coach to control and motivate.

Moyes is the figurehead and protector of the Finch Farm regime.Moyes would have wanted more effort and intensity, but Finch Farm just carried on in holiday and told Moyes to take a Chill pill, which he did.Moyes is at the stage of prepared bullshit Post match conference to deflected the blame away from those and maybe even himself who are already on holiday.Not pitch side where the abuse would be heard , but in full control ,with a door to run out of before the cameras had stopped and he was asked any more questions, to catch his awaiting Hold Taxi.There was no need for a Lazarus like performance from Mina or to beat a Champion league qualifier this season, which they would have done if required to keep the Premier League Gravy train going.

Moyes will stay and do little this summer only mouth, between his World Cup broadcasting days. The Recruitment will bring in young players with development potential and a few Moyes football spoiler mercenary types in on short term contracts, but won't want to fulfill their wages demands. Moyes mouthing regarding needing players, is just backing their wages demands

Hopefully the young players brought in last Summer will work hard over the Summer and be able to adapt Moyes play into what they where properly taught elsewhere.The preseason will be the usual shambles, struggling against third tier opposition under the guise of learning, which they never do.

Moyes is likely to have a very patchy start to next season. Hopefully TFG will have got over their Raw Roma experience and give the whole lot a data driven kick up the arse.Evertonians will give Moyes so much hell he will be glad when he retires, though I can't see greed not get the better of him taking up opportunities.

If he is given a contract extension I will cross that unfortunate bridge when I come to it. But Moyes demands will be that high I can't see TFG ignore the Fuck you all attitude of the regime he represents.I think Finch Farm have finally overdone it this time.

Moyes was right in one thing he said last Summer he needed 10 players, even if it was the ultimate in blame gaming.

Guess what Davy boy you are not getting 10 players this Summer and contract extensions won't get you out of so many contracts ending this Summer again, so the pressure is going to be on developing young players, something you hate and guess what they hate you as well.

23  Mike Barrett
25/05/2026    10:21:04

After seeing the after match press conference I'm done with moyes.
When he was asked if he understood the disappointment of the fans and said no I thought thats it.
The arrogance of the man is unbelievable and then to bring up penalty incidents at West ham and man city and not accept his own failings

I've always been slightly more pro moyes than anti but not any more.
And prepare for stones and delap incoming and more of the same.

24  Kevin Molloy
25/05/2026    12:47:38

We had a very tired squad at the end of last season. And so well over a hundred million was spent, and a year later that spend has resulted in us having one addition to our first team, KDH. The rest are either going back home, or aren't good enough to make it into the team. So we managed to spend a hundred million on players not good enough to get into last year's horribly patched together team. That's pretty bloody impressive. How do you spend a hundred million on not very good players, and then state at the end of it 'we need six new players'.
Well obv the Friedkins won't be giving him any more money. Why would they? the money he was given he has spent on unused players. So he'll be told 'sell the ones you're not using'. Which as. we know is bloody easier said than done.
And so we will eventually sell some of them. probably late in the window for considerably less than we paid, and then get to reinvest I'd say £40m if we're lucky on a new striker and right back. So Myko remains.
Given Branthwaite's unreliability, I think we're facing relegation next year. Moyes is probably canny enough to avoid that, but the footy is probably going to be so dire he'll be forced out, and then lord knows what happens.

25  Paul Conway
25/05/2026    12:55:42

Mike Barret # 23

If Moyes gets the gig, for as long as his first stint and we are still around, in about 8 years time, we just might witness the return of the Prodigal Son.. Anthony Gordon!
We just have to hope that it will be no nae never!

26  Paul Conway
25/05/2026    13:17:27

Kieran Fitzgerald # 2

You Posted on the previous Thread ( The Moyes Dilemma), at post #51 you mentioned, that we picked up a mere 5 points, from a possible 27, over a 9 game period !
Very Damning credentials indeed

This is what I would pass for relegation form and I only hope that the owners can analyse this, going forward.

If there is one positive to take from this alarming statistic, is that I am more than glad that the Season ended on the day that it did, because quite frankly, we were in Free Fall.

27  Jerome Shields
25/05/2026    13:18:12

Kevin#24

That is what I am afraid off is after Moyes. Any Manager coming in faces a Stage I build up and no ground work done.

Fortunately TFG have a policy after their Roma experience of recruiting young players with potential, and giving old players short term contracts and keeping it tight, though they did with Grealish, which has proved costly, since his wages are only partly insured. I expect this policy to continue this Summer preventing Moyes feathering his mid table mediocrity.

The real problem is TFG hands off approach in tackling the age old Cultural problem of Finch Farm, of which Moyes was just a figurehead.

The longer Moyes stays the more Youth development will suffer and the bigger job it will be progressing forward.

28  Mike Barrett
25/05/2026    13:31:38

Paul Conway #25
Cheers mate,
Just when I thought my bank holiday couldn't get any worse!!

29  Dennis Stevens
25/05/2026    14:42:58

Much as I thought Moyes out stayed his welcome, he did leave as the Everton Manager with the 4th best stats, sandwiched between Colin Harvey & Joe Royle. However, the returning Moyes lies in 15th place in the list of Everton Managers - behind Allardyce, Kendall II & Silva. This is despite the flurry of good form last season to drag the Club to a respectable finish. Grim times ahead, methinks.

30  Kieran Fitzgerald
25/05/2026    15:24:52

Paul at w6. I think those figures are right but am open to correction. Yep, scary stats if accurate.

I would be as concerned with not buying into the Friedkin approach of buying and developing youth. An overall plan has to be applied from top to bottom. You can't have a manager at odds with it or the owners.

31  Kevin Molloy
25/05/2026    15:44:11

Jerome yes. Following on from Christine's foray through AI and Roma, I asked it what was Roma's net spend over the last five years. It said they spent a hundred million in the first year, and then nothing effectively for the next four. Given Roma are clearly their favourite club, we can expect no further monies from them in the next few years. It'll be sell, break even, sell, break even.

32  David Brown
25/05/2026    15:57:41

Jerome I enjoy reading many of your comments you have technical knowledge that is always worth taking note of whereas I tend to stick with what I see visually in an old school way.
What does baffle me though is your often stated ‘Finch Farm’ connivence as though ‘Finch Farm’ was some separate entity from all those who we would normally associate with the Club…such as owner/manager/coaches/physios/psychoanalysts/players from youth team to first team.
Its certainly true that just sacking the manager is unlikely to turn the clubs fortunes around dramatically if investment is not forth coming but this is in the hands of the owner.
TFG need to decide not only how much can realistically be invested but who is responsible for spending the money.
Last summer’s signings have clearly brought a poor return…it was obvious last year that not signing a right back was always going to be a costly error and the signing of a young player at an inflated price to play as a striker, who lacks the basic requirements and -easily seen- does not have the temperament for the Premier league, makes you wonder who is making such inexplicable decisions.
Its unlikely that Moyes was behind most of these decisions so whoever was needs to be outed and kept away from any further transfer dealings.
Even if Moyes wasn’t involved though he cannot hide behind the shadowy ‘Finch Farm’ term because he is part of the team…his input may have been large or small in all our signings…only the owner knows the answer to that.
Perhaps they feel there’s still time for development and by not spending too much this Summer things may improve and therefore there’s no hurry in replacing him. A dismal thought enters my mind that another season of mediocre football is not too much of an issue for them as they never come to watch anyway.
As far as the culture at Finch Farm is concerned this can only be addressed by the owners…unless they are going to take responsibility for all that is wrong there the Club will be forever playing catch up… hopefully at some stage TFG will get that and then a new vibrant manager may have a chance to take our Club forward instead of just surviving.

33  Jerome Shields
25/05/2026    17:53:04

Kevin#31

From what I can gather,, without blinding you with figures, mainly from Paul the Esk and my own research the Premier League's broadcast deals and global commercial appeal make Everton a significantly more valuable asset on paper.A stable, mid-table Premier League club is worth more than a Roma that occasionally makes Champions League

.Everton already have their new stadium and Roma are in the process of developing their's. the Stadio della Roma, which is a onerous financial commitment as we know.This could explain the fall off in player expenditure. Everton even under the previous Management made a net profit on transfers whilst the Stadium was being finished, the only Premier League Club to do so.

Roma is a live asset with immediate fan pressure and a stadium project that requires public goodwill. Organised Italian Fan protests could derail planning permission or season ticket sales.They are very different than Evertonians.They are Romans in Rome.

Everton is a long-term asset with a brand new stadium already built. The priority is protecting Premier League status at all costs. Moyes is the safest pair of hands for that. Fan anger is a nuisance, not a threat to the asset's fundamental value yet.

Roma fans would disagree with you, they say Everton is the favourite Club.


Grateful to Christine for breaking ground on Everton/Roma.

34  Jerome Shields
25/05/2026    20:23:57

Kevin I should add that PSR also had a impact during Everton's Stadium Development.

35  Ross Edwards
25/05/2026    20:34:40

The last 2 months of this season have been nothing short of a disgrace. The players need to take a look at themselves, especially for the Sunderland performance and yesterday. Genuinely embarrassing. 1 shot on target in 100 minutes against a team without a home win in 6 months, with 1 win all year, without a clean sheet in months.

But that manager. I am genuinely sick of him. I couldn’t wait for his first spell to end, I genuinely can’t wait for this one to end and for him to go for good. This season was the biggest open door we could possibly have walked through to get European football, and he not only fully squandered it, he couldn’t even achieve the barest minimum scant consolation of top half. 1 more point than Sean Dyche and the same league position having spent £140m, the entire media behind him, Kinnear singing his praises in his propaganda articles, and the fanbase hailing him to messianic levels after the Chelsea win. His decision making since the derby defeat (which by the way, losing twice to that Liverpool side is a sackable offence on its own but that’s for another time), has been nothing short of criminal.

Sticking with that back 4 for 6 successive games after watching them let in 14 goals, the majority of them clown like, was so stupid you wouldn’t be blamed for thinking it was sabotage. The fact that Mykolenko and Keane have got new deals and Tarkowski the permanent captaincy makes it worse.

Now, if anyone has legitimate reasons why this manager should stay, I respect their views and will pay them credence, but if all some people i’ve seen online have is “be careful what you wish for, look at West Ham” and “it takes time to build a competitive squad”, then the latter argument has been fully shown up by Sunderland. A few days ago, the club tweeted a video of a throwback to that Palace game in 2022. Sunderland in that season were in the 3rd tier of English football. In the 4 years since, they got promoted to the championship, won the playoffs last season, signed 14 players this summer having spent a similar amount to Moyes, and finished 6 places higher than us and qualified for the Europa League. They were below us 2 weeks ago.

Bournemouth, top 6 finish. Iraola had to replace his entire back 4 in the summer, buy a new keeper, and then lost his best player in January. Think of it as us having to replace Ndiaye, Pickford, Branthwaite and buy another 3 defenders in one summer. Not only did he finish 3 places higher than last season, they played some of the best football in the country and were unbeaten in the last 18 matches of the season. Why can they make rapid progress but there’s constant excuses as to why we can’t?

Yes, we almost went down 3 seasons ago, but the idea that building up slowly is the only way we can do things is nonsense. If we were a serious club the manager would’ve been sacked this morning. Instead he’ll be given another season, no pressure on him, carte blanche to sign whatever crocks he likes. This isn’t 2007 anymore. It’s 2026, he’s finished and needs replacing. Look at his arrogance yesterday when asked if he understood the fans’ frustrations over how we ended the season: “you’re the one asking me that, I don’t understand it at all no”. That’s worse than anything Dyche ever said.

5 wins in 20 is how we ended the season. It’s relegation form. There are managers available right now that can take us on. If TFG were serious, they’d be looking right now.

36  Paul Conway
25/05/2026    22:19:37

Ross Edwards #35

Absolutely 100% on the money.
Excellent post and some fairly Traumatising statistics included.

37  Jerome Shields
25/05/2026    23:20:43

David #32

The common explanation for Everton's struggles is a carousel of managers. Sacked. Replaced. Sacked again. The implication is that the right manager simply hasn't been found yet. My analysis rejects that. IMO the problem is not the person on the touchline but the structure that surrounds him—a structure I collectively refer to as Finch Farm.

This is not a training ground. It is a system. And it is that system, I suggest, has been hijacked.

The original School of Science represented intelligence, technique, and ambition. What has grown at Finch Farm, over decades, is something closer to self-preservation. Different department :recruitment, sports science, academy, medical—operate as little empires, as our fellow Evertonians Gerald McKean who worked there referred to it as, protecting their own budgets and reputations rather than collaborating to produce results on the pitch. Those empires do not exist to serve the first team. They exist to survive the next ownership change.

Managers come and go. Some are simply ineffective. Others are actively helped on their way when they begin to pressure the structure. A manager who demands accountability from recruitment, who questions the medical department's return timelines, who wants to change how the academy feeds the first team, that manager becomes a threat. And the structure knows how to wait him out.

The evidence is visible every season. Everton are never in a cup competition after January. Not because of bad luck, but because the culture does not prioritise knockout football. The training load, the squad depth, the psychological preparatiom, all of it is calibrated for Premier League survival and nothing more. Once safety is assured, the intensity drops. April becomes a holiday. That is not a manager's decision. It is the organisation's default setting.

Many of us can trace this back 30 years. That is important. This did not begin with Moshiri, or Kenwright, or even Johnson( Kenwright was a Director who enjoyed a fan jumping on the boot of Johnson's Merc.) It has been built slowly, by self-serving owners who used roles at the club as patronage, rewarding loyalty over competence, hiring people who would not challenge them. Each layer added more resistance to change, more insulation for mediocrity.

Now TFG have arrived. Their Roma experience showed they can stabilise a chaotic club. But stabilisation is not transformation. At Everton, they have layered new processes on top of old cultural norms. They have introduced better financial management, professionalised the boardroom, and cleared debt. What they have not done is dismantle the little empires at Finch Farm. And those empires are resisting.

The resistance is not overt. It is passive. Delays. Misunderstandings. "That's not how we do it here." The new ownership asks for collaboration between recruitment and coaching, and the departments nod and continue working in silos. The new ownership demands accountability for poor transfers, and the data department produces reports showing the signings were statistically justified. The structure knows how to absorb pressure without changing.

What I am saying is that a vibrant manager can only thrive when this structure is smashed. Until then, any manager, will be ground down. Moyes is their boy he ensures the objective and he pedals sop and what problem?, in his dealing with the Fans, reflecting the prevailing attitude that exists. The club will continue to play catch-up. And Premier League survival will remain the ceiling, not the floor.

That is my humble opinion. It is also a test for TFG: whether they have the patience and ruthlessness to replace the people who embody the old culture with people who share a new ambition. If they do not I will be proven right. If they do, they will achieve something no Everton owner has done in 30 years.Hopefully change is on it's way.

By the way the best analysis is first hand David as you do, it seems missed by the Finch Farm data crunchers.Hopefully the above adds something to that.

38  David Brown
26/05/2026    13:25:48

Thanks for the insightful response Jerome. We can only hope that our new owners will review and rebalance Finch Farm… they certainly need to.

39  Jerome Shields
27/05/2026    18:40:45

Enjoy your posts they are always objective and aimed at trying by discussion to get understanding of what is actually happening.

40  raymond Fox
30/05/2026    10:37:45

First off, I don't care if Moyes stays or leaves, we have tried lots of managers to no avail so trying another one without upping the class of the squad is pointless to me.

The teams he has picked for these last games are the ones who have been getting us decent results, so who do you blame, the players or Moyes. I think you have to blame the players more than the manager.

If the majority of fans want Moyes gone lets do it, but even Ancelotti couldnt improve us much if at all.


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