Jaw-dropping Maitland-Niles strike earns Everton another last-gasp draw
Everton 2 – 2 Manchester United
The new arrival capped a seismic week on the blue side of Merseyside and what became an increasingly frenetic contest with Manchester United with a quite magnificent goal
It’s a little over eight years since an Everton player scored on his Premier League debut but it’s hard to recall a better maiden strike for the Toffees or one laden with more context than the one that rescued a point at Bramley-Moore Dock.
Ainsley Maitland-Niles capped a seismic week on the blue side of Merseyside and what became an increasingly frenetic contest with Manchester United with a quite magnificent last-gasp equaliser five days after arriving as an equally late, but also somewhat underwhelming, deadline-day acquisition from Lyon.
Everton had largely let themselves down in this first game since the transfer window closed by conceding a poor opener early in the second half but had dragged themselves back to parity thanks to Tyrique George’s thunderous equaliser in the 83rd minute.
Those celebrations were cut short by Benjamin Šeško, who looked to have grabbed the winner in this fixture for the second season running but, just shy of 20 minutes into this first appearance back in England, Maitland-Niles delivered the most unexpected of bolts from the blue.
While he and his fellow Londoner, George, will deservedly take the plaudits for their goals, the performance off the bench of Hayden Hackney was just as instrumental in what might prove to be an important point. The first of the new summer arrivals replaced James Garner in central midfield — the latter was supposed to move to right-back but pulled up with cramp almost immediately handing Maitland-Niles his opportunity — and immediately transformed the Blues as an attacking force.
Always looking to drive forward or look for a probing pass Hackney was involved in both goals, earning an assist for the first, and underlined the question marks over why David Moyes elected to drop him from the line-up in the first place after his hugely positive outing against Crystal Palace.
With Harrison Armstrong retained in the middle, however, Garner kept his place, despite looking well short of sharpness and fitness against Bournemouth last week, and the starting duo were part of a side that struggled to contain United in the first half, particularly through the middle and down Everton’s right side.
Merlin Röhl had been preferred to Maitland-Niles at right-back but, frequently caught tucked inside, he was rinsed on more than one occasion by Marcus Rashford while Luke Shaw profited from oceans of space as the visitors came perilously close to grabbing an early lead. Thankfully, Bruno Fernandes’s volley from his cross crashed back off the crossbar.
Youri Tielemans failed to unduly test Jordan Pickford from distance after 17 minutes and Fernandes was afforded all the time he needed a few minutes later to line up a shot from 25 yards out that deflected off the imperious Jarrad Branthwaite and over, while Diego Dalot’s volley from the resulting corner was blocked on its way to goal.
A couple of minutes after that, Rashford skinned Röhl and centred for Matheus Cunha but he blasted over.
Tentative and, with the exception of George and Armstrong, lacking someone to drive them forward, Everton battled to create any forward momentum for much of the first period but they gradually started to find their way as half-time approached.
Their best chance came when Röhl powered down the touchline and whipped in a terrific ball for Thierno Barry but the Frenchman couldn’t keep his header down and it cleared the bar by a couple of inches.
And Branthwaite had a rare shot on target following a corner but he could only fire straight at Senne Lammens in stoppage time.
Any platform from which Everton had hoped to build was taken from under them within a minute of the restart. With George offering little pressure, Vitalii Mykolenko ushered Bryan Mbeumo inside off the touchline and never got tight enough to him as the forward surged into the box and placed a shot past Pickford to give United the lead.
To their credit, the Blues tried to respond and, with his only meaningful contribution on his first start before making way for Jack Grealish, Brennan Johnson saw a shot deflected narrowly wide off an incisive pass from Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall.
Then, after George danced in superbly from the flank, lovely feet from Barry took him around one man but his shot was charged down impressively by Shaw and Dewsbury-Hall scuffed the rebound into the keeper’s arms.
Michael Carrick’s men came close to effectively putting the result beyond doubt just past the hour mark when Cunha looked set to prod home a loose ball from close range but James Tarkowski executed a perfect goal-saving tackle in his six-yard box to dispossess the Brazilian and keep it at 1-0.
After a Tielemans effort had skidded wide off Tarkowski, Grealish was sent on with 24 minutes left, and while he quickly set up a chance for Dewsbury-Hall that he wasted with another powder-puff finish it was the introduction of Hackney nine minutes later that changed the game.
Pushing purposely outside United’s box, the former Middlesbrough man collected a rebound off Lisandro Martinez, found George in space on the right and the winger set himself before rocketing a shot inside Lammens’ near post to ignite the Hill Dickinson Stadium crowd.
Everton weren’t able to retain the initiative, though and after Šeško had sounded a warning by heading one cross wide, the Slovenian sank Blue hearts two minutes from the end of the 90.
Once again, Shaw was the provider, arriving in space on the overlap, looping a cross over both Maitland-Niles’s outstretched leg and Tarkowski’s vain jump and though Pickford got a hand to Šeško’s downward header, he couldn’t stop it from squirming over the line.
Grealish had a 90th-minute shot charged down and when Hackney’s stoppage-time corner was cleared, Everton’s chance to salvage something appeared to have gone. But when Pickford kept the ball alive with a pass down the left with a pass to Grealish, Hackney ahead of him did well to square it back to Dewsbury-Hall on the edge of the area.
He was locked up by Tielemans and couldn’t fashion space for a strike on goal but when the loose ball was sliced out by a defender to Maitland-Niles 25 yards from goal, the new signing from Lyon steered a majestic right-footer into the top corner as Lammens watched helplessly on his goal line.
It was a stunning goal from one of the most unexpected sources on the pitch and it earned a point that Everton just about deserved on the basis of their improvement in the final third of the match. The Blues’ second injury-time equaliser in eight days preserved an unbeaten start to the season and helped banish some of the dark clouds that had been hovering over Bramley-Moore Dock in the interim.
Reader Responses
Selected thoughts from readers06/09/2026 20:49:19
Well done Everton. Despite a flat week, we've got some really good footballers. Two superb goals.
06/09/2026 21:52:47
what a couple of great prospects in Hayden Hackney and Tyrique George, whos pace absolutely saved us, when they broke 2 on 2, and he timed a magnificent sliding Tackle, to quell the threat.
Of all the signings we made in recent years, I think Hackney is going to to be Huge.
shades of Ball, Harvey and Kendall.
One thing is for Sure.. there is no Way Mykolenko, would have got back that quick.
His lack of pace to intercept Mbueno, for there first was lamentable.
An absolute mediocre player, who will never improve, in what otherwise looks like a very capable Team.
06/09/2026 22:24:15
Football. I hope the independent commission was watching that when they ponder the fallacy of probabilities. This game by rights should have seen Everton outclassed and several goals the lower. We chased shadows for 90mins finding it hard to put a foot in where it mattered, but we didn't stop, players didn't stop. This was a day when effort and mindset trumped high spend, big names.
About 18 months ago I wrote a piece on TW called Bridging the Gap, in which I argued that the (only) way to compete against that infamous top six was attitude, drive, aggression, harrishment and spirit.
Today was a fragmented Everton display,often second to a ball, many teams and many players and many teams would have given up but not today, not this team.
Today in a perverse way was David Moyes at his best, backs against the wall, his motivational skills driving his players on. The fans sensed it, the players could too. Don't stop, don't give up.
They were rewarded with two spectacular strikes that sickened Carrick and elated a city (even the other lot I suspect)
You can pick apart performances as we do, but today showed just why a certain decision for Burnley was disgraceful and why David Moyes got the job. It may only have been a point but it laid down a marker. Everton will not roll over. We'll done blues, we'll done Moyes.
06/09/2026 22:32:09
I thought that Moyes cost Everton the game today with his substitution and botched defensive tactics after the George goal, which allowed Man United Creative players a full 5 minutes of uninterrupted play in front of the Everton area resulting in a tap in.
Maitland- Niles scored a great goal and Hackney played forward more effective than Gana ever did.
06/09/2026 23:21:20
6,possibly 7, starters there to build a team around.
That takes funding of course.
Branthwaite, when fit, the best centre half in the division for me.
06/09/2026 00:11:10
For the second game in succession we dragged a draw from the jaws of defeat. It was another commendable show of team spirit and determination to fight to the end.
The recovery of a point cannot however mask the deficiencies evident in the first hour when we failed to lay a glove on a visiting team which looked nowhere near the level required for a top four place. We improved markedly once Grealish and Hackney were introduced. Greater control in possession enabled the team to exert pressure and create chances. Our two goals came from brilliant shots which will live long in the memory.
Tyrique George earned the man of the match for his goal and willingness to make something happen on the ball. His obvious weak point is tracking back which will no doubt be addressed by Moyes and his coaches. In the meantime for a team lacking goal scorers we must hope he can draw confidence from todays goal. More please!
James Garner has looked off the pace in all his appearances so far. Generally our midfield has looked too open out of possession with teams allowed to play through them. The hope for Moyes must be that Garner will play his way towards full fitness and eventually hit his best form. The team needs him to do so sooner rather than later.
Jerome (5) I thought the manager made the right changes, arguably the only ones available to him. I would have brought Garner off a few minutes earlier as he was clearly struggling.
07/09/2026 02:48:34
Moyes showed his stubbornness and conservativeness again in preferring a 70% fit Jimmy G. over a fully fit Hackney: but this game showed that while Jimmy G. is more adapt in providing stability in the midfield, Hayden is a more gutsy and daring playmaker (Desperate time calls for desperate measures!). Moyes always err on the safe side by having 2 defensive-minded players in his midfield trio: with KDH firmly in the lineup, it appears Hayden might continue to be sacrificed in the starting lineup like Sunday for Jimmy G. and Harrison, notwithstanding Harrison's defensive positioning appears to still need a lot of work.
Tyrique's goal was almost the carbon copy of the Gerard Deulofeu goal against the Gunners in 2013: which one is better? Regardless, absolutely brilliant!
I have to continue tipping my hat to Merlin keeping up his attitude and giving it all, despite Moyes not putting him in a position to succeed: We should all be grateful that Merlin's confidence has not yet been shot completely by now.
Had Barry's header gone in...and without the collective lapse of concentrations that led to the Mbuemo goal + another missed header by Tarky that led to the Sesko goal...we might have won!
Let's take the glass half full approach (Jack and Jimmy G. will get fully fit) and enjoy for now, folks!
07/09/2026 02:54:27
John#7
You can't allow Creative players a full 5 minutes around the edge of your plenty area, the substitution was about changing tactics and going deep to protect the draw, not to win the game. Moyes was lucky that Maitland - Noles scored that superb goal.The team was set up from the start as per the usual Moyes. The difference was that Everton had players now who can progress the ball forward in that system, but the depth of the defence is still a problem, only helped by Banthwaite when fit.I not saying that Garner did not need substituted, but O Brien was left on the bench and was needed to bolster up the defensive line to bring it up the pitch.
07/09/2026 06:39:21
Our next three games are Spurs (a), Wolves (h) and Ipswich (a). Three winnable games. I think they will help with momentum and giving everyone a lift.
We can continue to get certain players match fitness up to speed, figure out who exactly should play where, and also continue to develop confidence.
The dreaded yet for once welcome international break with help with Garner's recovery, hopefully that was cramp yesterday and not a breakdown. Branthwaite's hamstrings may be thankful of the rest as well.
That brings us up to the end of September. Sounds daft to be planning this way, three league games into a new season. But find solutions, not more problems.
07/09/2026 08:43:34
Yes yesterday was a good day, and we could leave the ground feeling satisfied we had got a deserved point, curtesy of two fine goals and great all round team effort. It was also a good day for the Manager, who for once used players off the bench who were all instrumental in the final result.
I would just like to pick out a number of players for specific mention. To begin, Rohl is clearly not a full back. He has got attributes certainly but where he should play I am not sure, hopefully he will find his true position in time. Our one and only left back is often criticised, I think unfairly, yes he was at fault for the second goal yesterday but in my mind he is generally a brave and capable defender. Also I don't think Johnson had a great game yesterday, but I thought there were one or two examples were he showed his ability and enough to indicate that he has the skills to be an important player for us.
And finally to Barry, has he ever played the full 90 minutes before ? Well I was worried yesterday against a very tough and experienced centre half that he just would not show up. Well no worries, right from the first minute he was in the thick of it, and I thought he generally did ok and played his part. He playing much better than last season and at the moment we don't really have an alternative for him. So just like the rest of the team, we are short of replacements so attitude and fitness will be important, and our backing as is the norm essential. Note to all those who left early, you missed the best goal of the match.
07/09/2026 10:35:31
I did think we had a chance yesterday after the Deadline Day fiasco because the crowd would be up for it. Sometimes we seem to do well when we have to show some fighting spirit. It's often the games when the expectation is there that we don't turn up.
I'd prefer to see Garner cover at right back rather than O'Brien or Röhl. I think we have got good options now in centre midfield, with Hackney, Dewsbury-Hall, Armstrong and Norgaard (to come). O'Brien is the better option defensively but the latter is better in the final third. Hopefully, Maitland-Niles can make the position his own.
I thought Dewsbury-Hall was a bit disappointing yesterday. I like him but he hit a couple of Ndiaye-esque daisycutters when he was in good positions. Brennan Johnson seemed lacking in confidence at times. We need the player who was at Forest and not the Palace version.
Overall, I think we fully deserved a draw yesterday and there were a lot of positives. It's early days but Hackney looks like a player who wants to play forwards and create things and we've needed someone like that for years.
07/09/2026 10:35:32
I did think we had a chance yesterday after the Deadline Day fiasco because the crowd would be up for it. Sometimes we seem to do well when we have to show some fighting spirit. It's often the games when the expectation is there that we don't turn up.
I'd prefer to see Garner cover at right back rather than O'Brien or Röhl. I think we have got good options now in centre midfield, with Hackney, Dewsbury-Hall, Armstrong and Norgaard (to come). O'Brien is the better option defensively but the latter is better in the final third. Hopefully, Maitland-Niles can make the position his own.
I thought Dewsbury-Hall was a bit disappointing yesterday. I like him but he hit a couple of Ndiaye-esque daisycutters when he was in good positions. Brennan Johnson seemed lacking in confidence at times. We need the player who was at Forest and not the Palace version.
Overall, I think we fully deserved a draw yesterday and there were a lot of positives. It's early days but Hackney looks like a player who wants to play forwards and create things and we've needed someone like that for years.
07/09/2026 11:21:50
I can't get over the difference Grealish made to that team.
United were a flock of complacent fat seagulls sunning themselves by the Mersey until the introduction of our Peregrine Falcon with 20 to go spread panic effortlessly through the whole lot of them. Suddenly it wasn't fun any more. and they had four around him whenever he got the ball. Not that he cared, he just cantered down the line, doing whatever he chose, brilliant passing and the confidence of a world class player.
07/09/2026 13:10:03
I can't be grateful that Everton played sufficiently well after the transfer fiasco.Like last season we let a poor Man United off the hook.We had the players to win that game as we had the last time around.
07/09/2026 13:12:45
I agree Jerome I couldn't believe it the way we retreated after getting our first equaliser. And Pickford's distribution, I think he gave the ball away or gave bad passes three times in five minutes. before Sesko's goal.
07/09/2026 13:19:02
Kevin#17.
The Fanbase cannot allow the Friedkins and Moyes tolower expectations so that we are grateful for a draw. We where in our brand new Stadium so called fighting back for a draw and lucky to get one with a wonder shot.
Moyes looked like he was getting patted on the back.
07/09/2026 13:53:10
Luckily enough, Jerome, not everyones glass is as permanently empty as yours. There were plenty of positives on show yesterday, and yes Moyes deserves credit for a lot of that - the fighting team spirit on display yesterday didnt just suddenly magic itself into existence - thats down to drilling it into the players all week. Would you not be happier to be in a position to able to praise the coaching staff for and squad than secretly hoping they fail to prove a point to the Friedkins?
07/09/2026 13:53:28
Jerome, the bottom line is they where by far the better side, individually and tactically. We were second to everything in midfield until Hackney came on.
But we fought and right now (sadly) that's our biggest plus. That's what we are going to have to do to win games this season. Moyes got it tactically wrong yesterday but got out of jail because of that spirit. It may take much more than that in the weeks to come but we are stuck with what we have till January. Front foot in your face stuff can only get you so far.
07/09/2026 15:13:37
John#18
Christine#19
Moyes sat back of them and allowed them the space to play.His aim was to avoid defeat.Even when Everton where on the front foot, he reverted back to deep defensive after the goal and got the shock he deserved. He got pulled out of jail and was happy to face his post match presser, Job done.
John #18
There have been plenty of positives over the past 30 years and nearly as many false dawn's.That was a winnable game for Everton and fundamentally a Club has to win games.Plucky little Everton is not good enough against a poor Man United side, in our new Stadium.
I actually was hopeing a fight would break out in the dressing room Moyes could not give his negative pep talk.
07/09/2026 15:18:57
I'd love to expect a win against Man United, Jerome but we are where we are. Their squad cost over £900m. In Šeško, Cunha and Mbeumo they have far better forwards than we have in Barry. They finished last season well under Carrick. I would have taken a point before the game and the draw felt like a win having gone behind twice, the second one being so late in the game. They beat us last season when we got caught on the counter attack. I think that is progress.
07/09/2026 15:25:47
Craig #21.
Last year the side hadn't moved up as a unit keeping the defensive line deep with not just gaps, but gaping holes.I remember the view from behind the goal the defensive line was beat in the penalty area It wasn't just counter attacks , it was a walk throughs
It was a tactical disgrace by Moyesm.
07/09/2026 16:57:15
We can't celebrate a home draw against Utd.
Hull beat them two weeks ago.
Fighting spirit should be a given in any game from any player.
Was pleased with Hackney, he looks full of fighting spirit.
Along with Garner and Armstrong in midfield I reckon we will be ok in there, more so when Norgaard is fit.
We need a left back more than we need a right back imo.
07/09/2026 17:12:33
Jerome, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but hoping a fight broke out in our dressing room instead of a motivational pep talk plus tactical substitutions which transformed us in the second half is one youre going to have to champion on your own.
And United arent a poor side. Theyre much improved since Moyes masterminded a win against them with just 10 men.
07/09/2026 17:28:29
Our press was depressing.
Our imagination was unimaginative.
But, our resilence, was thankfully Evertonian.
They were given far too much time to play through us.
Rohl is trying his best but defensively is naive. If Maitland Niles needs time, I'd play Garner there for now, and play the impressive Hackney. The sooner the Danish newcomer is fit the better. A real talent that'll help us look more solid.
Barry is sadly all we've got, but I'd be tempted to blood Graham, a seemingly natural goal scorer. Can't be worse. Surely?
07/09/2026 18:09:32
Moyes is absolutely loving life, you can see the twinkle in his eye from the sidelines yesterday, he revels in this kind of situation where we are underestimated with a threadbare squad, backs to the wall type stuff. His demeanour screams quiet satisfaction, not ideal for your typical supporter I suppose, admittedly, I was myself feeling a sense of dread heading into the season but I think theres plenty to be optimistic about moving forward.
Grealish? World class player make no mistake, I was one of the ones who supported his return how anyone could have been against it is beyond incomprehensible to me but there you are.
Barry played bravely, not well, but bravely. Gave Maguire something to think about. More to come from him.
07/09/2026 18:18:35
Some comments on my take on the game.
Pickfords distribution was brutal and put Tarks needlessly in trouble. He did the same against Liverpool last year with a similar pass to JOB who passed the parcel to McNeill who lost the ball resulting in their goal
Why is Myko the only person responsible for the 1st goal. Our defence was like when Moses open the Red Sea and other culprits include Jarrad.
For me Hackney and Armstrong should be the foundation of our midfield with
Grealish, Barry and George. Was not a great fan of Barry who I thought was weak physically and emotionally but yesterday he put in a shift. Yes he missed a chance but so did Haaland.
This leave the dilemna of what to do with Norgaard, Garner, Rohl (who I like but not a defender) KDH and Charley.
Dibling and Johnson should be replacement for Grealish and George if they put in a shift defensively when we lose the ball.
As for the comments that Moyes sat back on them. Didnt realise he was playing.
He is not Manager who takes chances but with Garner possibly out it will1 be very interesting to see who he picks next week.
07/09/2026 18:21:41
John #24
That's what happened the last time we beat them and that was with 10 men.Do you think Moyes had anything to do with that.It was galvanised players.
07/09/2026 18:37:09
Im so pleased for the guy.
Wed waited years for an actual right back but, lets be honest, most of us saw his signing as a massive anti-climax. An act of desperation even.
Now, hell always be remembered for his debut and a strike that will probably win goal of the season.
If he can turn in a solid shift on a weekly basis then he might prove to be the bargain of the century.
07/09/2026 18:42:21
Jerome “ That's what happened the last time we beat them and that was with 10 men”.
Clearly the players were so self-galvanising to the point of one slapping another on the face and getting himself sent off. But, yeah Moyes had nothing to do with it. Of course.
07/09/2026 20:04:30
Neil 27.
Branthwaite covered a clever run from Cunha.
He had no choice but to go with the run.
07/09/2026 20:23:46
John
On reflection, I take your point. But the defense did open like the Red Sea firstly Johnson pulled out of the tackle, Myko was outrun and Garner failed to put in a challange. I did jarrad an injustice
07/09/2026 20:31:47
Great result against the odds which put some of the gobshite media pundits, back in their petty corners of football journalism.
Dissapointing 1st half and caught out far too easily for both goals.
But Everton battled well and in respect created numerous good chances which lacked the composure for a killer strike on goal.
The subs transformed the game and credit to Moyses.
They were two of the best shots by Everton players in a long time on the same match, and the boost to confidence to the squad is massive.
Everton deserved a share of the points and yet again some piss poor refereeing saw United get lucky again.
Ive lost faith in VAR and assertive fair Referees along ago but I believe that Rverton without doubt will need loads of luck with onjuries this season, but this week, can definitely beat Spurs.
Lets take the positives in terms of the squad and as for TFG, theyre a mirage and have no genuine connexion to Eveton FC.
UTTs!
07/09/2026 20:33:49
For Spurs I'd start the team that finshed the game for Everton.
07/09/2026 20:52:33
A few pleasing things about the opening few games:
- we look like scoring goals from open play, with decent passing, movement and build up in the opposition third.
- some of the new lads are showing real promise - George (not totally new, I know) and Hackney in particular.
- Armstrong has kicked on, and should have a big future ahead of him.
- Barry has also kicked on, looking like a much better footballer as well as the confidence boost of some early goals.
- Branthwaite is reminding us what we missed last season. A class act.
- Grealish is really happy back playing for Everton, and is a cracking footballer.
- Rohl has a great attitude and some really good characteristics, albeit may end up more of a utility player than a nailed on regular.
It's plain obvious we're still a work in progress - so there are negatives too, of course, but there's something here for us to get behind as fans. And the beginnings of a really good team is starting to form.
As the season progresses, hopefully we'll see the Branthwaite / O'Brien partnership develop too. That's probably the next big step.
07/09/2026 21:46:18
When Nørgaard comes back, I can see him and Hackney being Moyess first choice starting midfield pivot. We couldve done with Nørgaards defensive cover in yesterdays first half and we need that bit of steel there going forward. And hell free up Garner to play RB if needed, rather than Röhl.
07/09/2026 23:07:15
A poor goal to concede Neil I agree.
He went past Myko like he wasn't there, he didn't have the physicallity to recover.
Poor effort from his covering man as well I thought.
07/09/2026 23:36:43
Jerome it's fairly obvious that by your repeated comments on this thread, that your dislike of Moyes is bordering on the obsessive.
I saw a spirited display by an Everton team that refused to accept defeat, facing a much more expensively assembled team, that most Evertonians would die for, who clearly had the edge in quality, for long periods of the game.
You reluctantly give the manager minimum praise, and by doing so, also slag the team off in the same breath.
It's impossible for you, to write constructively about Everton, and celebrate the joy of a last minute equaliser, when you hold such negative views about the manager.
I'm actually not a huge fan of Moyes, but lesser manager's may have walked out, at the events of the last 10 days, leaving the club in the lurch, and unless we somehow conjure up a miracle this season, and qualify for the Champions League, he will be gone at the end of the season.
Could you not just enjoy the spectacle of two fantastic goals, and the subsequent relief/ecstasy of the crowd, supplemented by encouraging displays of two of our most exciting players George and Hackney.
Cheer up, it's just three months until Xmas,
08/09/2026 03:45:02
Steve#39
Could Everton have won? Yes. Emphatically yes. Should Everton have won? Yes. We were at home, we had the momentum, and United are a shadow of their former selves. Did we win? No. We drew.Is that acceptable? Not if we want to be anything other than a mid-table side.
The spirit, the goals, the crowd, all wonderful in isolation. But wins are what change tables, not plucky draws.
Moyes will be gone at the end of the season unless we pull off a Champions League miracle – you said that yourself. And if that's the case, then we should be demanding wins against the traditional top six, not accepting last-gasp rescues as evidence of character.
Character is holding on to a 2-1 lead. Character is not conceding in the 88th minute. Character is winning, not drawing
I don't dislike Moyes. I dislike the acceptance of results like this as good enough.
I celebrate George's goal. I celebrated Maitland-Niles' rocket. But I also remember that we were 1-1 with ten minutes left, and we went defensive, and we got punished. That's not obsessive, that's honest.
If we want Everton to be more than a plucky, spirited, nearly there club, we have to stop treating a home draw against United as a triumph. It's a point. Not a statement.
08/09/2026 07:34:54
Jerome - what metric are you using for the claim that United, (who finished third last season after finishing 15th the previous one) are a “shadow of their former selves?”
08/09/2026 08:33:39
Barry may have been marginally better but had the ball not ricocheted back to Hackney for Georges goal, it wouldnt just be me bemoaning him letting a simple ball run under his foot.
Much like Tarkowskis goal against Liverpool, these dramatic endings are what Im accepting as succes as a Blue. Expectations very much in check.
08/09/2026 10:46:50
John#40
They where beat two weeks ago by Hull and looked very edgy when the game was taken to them.I sensed they where there for the taking, but Moyes inferiority complex prevailed.
08/09/2026 11:12:23
Agree Jerome, he backed off in the last 15 minutes.
David never risks a defeat by going for the win.No matter who the opposition is.
08/09/2026 12:10:25
John (43) - How can he have backed-off in the last 15 minutes when we scored in the 83rd and 96th minutes?!
Im not making a pro-Moyes comment, Im just a bit baffled by a statement that is totally disproven by what actually happened on the pitch.
08/09/2026 12:24:45
John 43 - you clearly werent watching the same game as everyone else - bringing on two attacking players in Grealish then Hackney isnt “backing off” by any stretch. As for Moyes never going for the win, I seem to recall quite a few big away scalps last year where, clearly he was going for the win.
08/09/2026 12:35:18
I watched it on TV, give it a miss mostly nowadays due to the boring football offered up.
It's his go to John 45, every season.A scared, defensive minded manager.
How many scalps did he take in the other 13 years he managed us?
08/09/2026 12:39:21
Tony 44,
For the simple reason that we went behind on the two occasions before we scored.
He backed off after the first equalizer,then had no choice but to go for it after we went behind again.
08/09/2026 12:48:46
John (47) - We had more shots than them; more shots on target than them; a much higher xG than them and almost 50% possession.
Im not saying we were gung-ho but we looked like a threat for most of the second half and kept pushing until the very end.
Youre entitled to your overall opinion of Moyes, and theres some justification for that opinion, but shoehorning it in when the sequence of events and the match stats say otherwise makes very little sense.
I wanted Moyes to be replaced after last seasons collapse but that doesnt stop me from seeing whats in front of me on a match-by-match basis and being able to comment objectively.
08/09/2026 12:53:38
We had "nearly 50% possession"
Definitely cause for celebration, nearly 50% possession in a home game Tony.
Thats an objective comment Tony,well done.
08/09/2026 13:00:29
John, In a game where we were on the back-foot for most of the first half, we finished with 48% possession. That suggests we had far more of the ball than they did in the second half. Add that to our other stats and we were clearly going at them. Thats how it felt in the ground too.
Youre the one that made a nonsensical statement about backing off in the last 15 minutes. I think you mustve dozed off in front of the telly, lad!
Yes, Moyes does dither over subs. Yes, Garners cramp mightve forced him into a rethink, but we were attacking before and after his substitution. You made it sound like we had everyone behind the ball when the complete opposite is true.
08/09/2026 13:23:59
Touch of paranoia from yourself in defense of Davy there Tony.Calm down a touch.
I asked so I could ask another question of are the fans around you happy with last seasons performance?
45% possession btw.
08/09/2026 13:34:35
John, Of course not. Nobody was happy with the way last season disappeared to nothing. It was a shocking finish and Moyes shouldve been ashamed of himself.
Likewise, for all we performed very well away from home, most of us were pissed off that we had to witness losses and scrappy draws at home. The interesting thing is that we played counter-attacking football when away from home, which was very effective. Moyes wanted to play more front-foot football at Hill Dickinson which left gaps defensively. If hed been 100% true to his ‘Dour Davey reputation last season wed probably have picked up more points at home.
08/09/2026 13:42:34
Tony,
The front foot football Davy played at home last season saw us score 26 goals in 19 games.
I give my ST away 9 games last season due to the lack of quality football played.
Silly me,i could have watched all that successful front foot football in home games.
08/09/2026 13:49:09
John, Thats my point: He tried to play front-foot football and failed miserably!
Its now the 2026-27 season though. I cant change who our manager is so have to bear it until at least May next year. In the meantime, weve made an OK start to the season and Im prepared to moderate my opinion of the manager, every player, and the owners based on what happens over the next 8 months. If we won a cup and finished top 4 then Id look stupid calling for Moyes head. I dont anticipate either but will try not to let the hope kill me…
08/09/2026 13:54:01
Fair enough Tony.
Lets see what Tony's opinion is :-)
08/09/2026 14:19:51
John#47
That is my recollection of what happened. Moyes was aiming for the draw. When he got the equaliser 88;minutes he sat back in tactics to protect that. Then they went ahead again.Lucky for Moyes Maitland-Niles had a shot in him, or else this would have been a different thread.
You are right if Moyes has a draw in the the last 15 minutes he will sit ball, playing the percentage game of finishing around midtable by the end of the season.
I would like to call out another fallacy regarding European Qualification.Due to Ueafa Multi Club Ownership rules ( Feb '26) only one Club can qualify for European Competition, between Everton and Roma.So even if Everton had of came 6th last season, they would have not qualified for Europe, since Roma qualified for European Competition having won the Europa Cup.
Everton have to finish in a higher Premier League place than Roma in Series A to qualify for Europe.
08/09/2026 15:23:50
That's interesting, Jerome. For some reason, I'd got it stuck in my head that it was only an issue if the two clubs ended up in the same competition.
I wonder where I got that from? Probably misread something on the beeb!
08/09/2026 15:53:21
Jerome (58) Have the rules changed this season? Last season Palace were relegated to the Conference because they, 45% owned by John Textor, and his Lyon, had both qualified for the Europa League. Lyon were permitted to stay in the Europa owing to their higher league position.
My understanding was that if both clubs qualified for the Conference, the team finishing with the highest league position would enter while the other club would drop out of Europe.
08/09/2026 16:07:11
Having now checked the UEFA rules there has been no change in terms of the multi ownership clubs. They cannot compete in the same competition.
08/09/2026 16:25:03
There is a fine line between interpreting stats & allowing the process to frame a view of the game as opposed, still in the midst of it, just absorbing what you see in front of you.
There is a place for both methods but being an old git before stats ruled I prefer the second approach relying, perhaps overmuch on my judgement.
Surely, I argue, watching & playing for sixty odd years must have taught me something.
Thus I sigh at the protracted exchanges which form much of this thread.An unwelcome tad of nastiness which has no place here; behave children!
WE always start too slowly in my view and thus a good team (and United are demonstrably are) will pick you off.
Very lucky to be level at 45.
Their first goal was inevitable; when dangerous wide men cut in only the finest full backs cope well & the need is for a covering defensive mid fielder to at least put a meaningful tackle in; this was lacking.
We did respond very well.
But class sides respond & we either went immediately deeper (Moyes characteristic) or they pushed on straight away.
We kept knocking on the door but in all honesty the new boys' wonder strike got us, particularly DM, out of gaol.
The performance point leased me but just as much was the periphal news that Danny got a heroes send off & the phoenix like re-appearance of George Mc Kane; great stuff.
08/09/2026 16:46:55
CORRECTION: Regarding My Previous Post on UEFA Multi-Club Ownership
I want to issue a correction and clarify my earlier post on UEFA's multi-club ownership rules. I incorrectly stated the specific mechanism of the rule.
The rule (Article 5) does not prevent a club from qualifying for Europe in the first place. If two clubs with the same owner qualify for the same UEFA competition, only one can participate. The other is demoted to a lesser competition, based on which club finished higher in its domestic league.
However, my broader conclusion that Everton would have been at risk was correct—and here is why.
Reports indicate that the Friedkin Group did not implement a compliant "structural solution" or blind trust before UEFA's March 1, 2026, deadline. As of late April, no formal communication had been received by UEFA resolving the multi-club ownership issue between Everton and AS Roma. This left both clubs facing a potential regulatory conflict had they qualified for the same competition, hence my thinking.
So, while I got the mechanism wrong, the core risk I highlighted was real. I appreciate the discussion and wanted to ensure the facts are correct. Apologies for the initial confusion.
In short, as of the latest reports, the multi-club ownership issue remains unresolved, and the Friedkin Group's path to compliance is unclear.
08/09/2026 18:16:16
Jerome, not quite correct. Everton and Roma could both qualify for Europe, just not the same competition. You are right about whoever finishes highest goes n the senior competition, e.g AS Roma finish 4th and Everton finish 5th both qualifying for the Champions League. In that instance we would be “relegated” to the Europa League.
It is possible for both clubs to appear in the same competition if the owners transfer one club into a “blind trust” that means day to day ownership is taken out of their hands. That is what Marinakas did with Forest and Olympiacos and Boehly between Chelsea and Strasbourg https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn43pkl2238o.
The issue last season was there was no evidence TFG had done that by the March deadline for Everton and Roma
08/09/2026 18:31:05
I stopped posting on TW because every thread ended up being about Moyes. This site used to be about a balanced debate about football and not personalities. Me thinks we have been infiltrated.
08/09/2026 18:52:31
Well said neil #65
Im beginning to feel the same
08/09/2026 19:58:06
I feel the “everyone hates Everton” vibe hasnt hit this site yet.
08/09/2026 20:03:35
I've got the same mindset as you Neil / Mike.
I don't really see our troubles as being very complicated: we're still recovering / rebuilding from the disastrous Moshiri ownership and it takes time. Moyes isn't exactly Alex Ferguson or Pep Guardiola but he's a decent fit for the time being and has a good track record of improving players, working on a low budget and qualifying for Europe.
The football is often not very inspiring but that's the Premier League - a lot of it is very boring.
By some amazing coincidence, I expect our managers will be able to play better football / achieve more when we have more money to spend and better players.
That will probably start next season unless Moyes performs very well - i.e. qualifies for Europe and / or wins a cup.
It'll be interesting to see what fans find to talk about when he's gone.
08/09/2026 20:17:54
Neil@65 Spot on. Its tiresome.
Shane @67 Theyre sending out their scouts.
08/09/2026 20:52:54
Due to the first international break moving to the end of September I wasnt at BMD for the game but watched it from afar (Cyprus).
It felt a bit weird as I sit in the lower east stand and the tv cameras are in the west so it was a slightly different perspective.
Either way it just feels that we will have plenty of games this season where we look open but will also have some good results.
In general terms I agree with Robert (68) we can look at shortcomings in individual games but we are in the middle of a rebuilding process that will take a few seasons to, hopefully, achieve fruition so in the meantime Im going to try and take a pragmatic view.
We were lucky on Sunday and ideally three of the starting back four wouldnt be in the side but our two goals were excellent and Grealish and Hackney changed the game when they came on so at the moment Im feeling hopeful for the season.
08/09/2026 21:29:16
John#64
You are right. I had intented to make that clear, but it was not clear enough.
That was the main issue as you say, but it is still unclear if there are repercussions,since it appears to be a regulatory breach.
Thank you for trying to clarify, what is a complicated situation, with nothing more than reassurance from TFG and nothing else.
Moyes situation is determined alot by the Friedkins and he does appear to suit their purpose. But Dan Friedkin has not spoken to him in 20 months.Why he is not available and prefers a structured communication line just raised questions.
09/09/2026 06:58:59
*Sigh*
First time Ive had to do this 👇 Long honeymoon over, I suppose.
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06/09/2026 19:33:19
Hackney has to start every game from now on. Grealish looked like hed never been away. George is comfortable on the right. Röhl still looks ropey doing basic defensive duties though. AMN should solve that. Welcome to Everton, fella.
If we dont pick up key injuries we could somehow end up having a decent season.