We Need to Talk About David
FAN VIEW
I think the marriage is over sadly, and The Friedkin Group should pull the plug on his reign, and the search for a new manager should begin in earnest.
I'll nail my colours to the mast right from the start. Up until two weeks ago, I was a fan of David Moyes, despite all the noise surrounding his current tenure, and his past at Everton. The fan base once split 50/50, now the majority want change.
I think the marriage is over sadly, and The Friedkin Group should pull the plug on his reign, and the search for a new manager should begin in earnest. So why the change in opinion?
There comes a point in a manager's time at the club, when he reaches the point of no return. I remember the late Walter Smith was sacked on the 13th March 2002; three days earlier, his Everton team put in a woeful performance in the sixth round of the FA Cup at Middlesborough, going three goals down before half time.
I was there, and the travelling support was livid.
Whilst one game won't decide Moyes's fate, I now believe the majority of fans would genuinely like to see a change.
The realistic prospect of qualifying for Europe just two months ago has been thrown away, and in ironic fashion, Sunderland, the team invoved in the Championship play-off places last season, have leapfrogged us and, probably, can't believe their luck.
Soft touch or what?
The mighty Crystal Palace, once a yo-yo club, up and down the divisions, are in touching distance of winning their third trophy in three years. Let that sink in.
Back to Moyes and my change of heart. It was like death by a thousand cuts on Sunday. So predictable, Spurs could not have wished for a more passive team than Everton, to play against, to ensure they extend their time in the Premier League.
No shots on goal until the 75th minute. After Spurs scored from a corner (once again) from some dreadful, lackustre defending, they could have sent their fans home and started the celebrations early; we were never going to muster two goals in return.
Sorry, West Ham fans.
But back to our manager, and his selection 'blindness' — that's all I can call it. The same players who have struggled for form, some embarrassingly so, get selected week after week, no matter how poorly they perform.
Jake O'Brien was cautioned on Sunday after 13 minutes, for yet another vain attempt to pull back a winger who had sped past him. I actually felt for the player; his confidence must be shot. Yet, our manager steadfastly refuses to play him in his chosen position of centre-back. He simply doesn't trust anyone else in that role, or refuses to try them. Plain stubborness on his behalf.
Merlin Röhl was like a frightened rabbit all game; the occasion was simply too much for him. When eventually replaced by Harrison Armstrong, the difference was immediate. Again, I'm fearful of an experienced manager not being able to see what everybody else can.
The selection of Thierno Barry over Beto, was equally baffling. He stunk the place out for a whole 75 minutes before being hooked. The introduction of Tyrique George immediately added pace and, for once, there was a threat down the Everton left, but the manager didn't believe he was worthy of a starting place. Incredible.
It is actually alarming to think he just didn't have the tactical nouse to try something different. He's now classed as one of the Premier League's most experienced managers, but his reputation as being 'overly cautious' in both tactics and team selection is actually true. It's just taken me until now to accept it.
There are younger more progressive managers out there. It's easy to name who they are, but the likes of Adoni Iraola, whose brand of open attacking football is a joy to watch, will have his choice of football clubs from all over Europe, not a basket case like Everton.
Why is it Bournemouth, average attendance 12,000, can out-perform us, and choose and recruit a manager, many of us had never heard of? Never mind recruiting players like Antoine Semenyo, Junior Kroupi and Rayan, all given the opportunity to play by a manager who trusts them.
I believe Moyes (and his recruitment team), spent something in the region of £130m on players in the last 12 months. Only a couple can have been deemed successful.
He clearly does not trust young players, instead going for the 'steady Eddies' , who won't 'let you down' in the hurly burly of the Premier League.
The treatment of Tyler Dibling has been disgraceful. Whatever has gone wrong in his development, the rift between player and manager is as wide as it's ever been. What a waste of a young player's career. He must be so disillusioned.
He doesn't even get on regularly as a sub anymore.
Apparently, Vitalii Mykolenko is about to sign a new three-year deal with the club; another 'steady Eddie', his three assists in three seasons must be a club record. Not the best example of a modern full back.
To lose eight games at home this season is a disgrace, to collect just three points from the last 21 available is, in my opinion, good enough reason why TFG must make the change.
Moyes won't change; he doesn't like the word, it's not in his dictionary.
Reader Responses
Selected thoughts from readers26/05/2026 02:27:38
Yes I’m with you on most of this. 100% sure we should not extend his contract - no question about that.
Ultimately Moyes is devoid of risk taking or innovation, and far too conservative in his mentality. He was perfect for what we needed 18 months ago but has hit his mentality wall.
Baffling that so much was spent on players in the summer that haven’t played at all.
I don’t think wholesale changes are needed to the squad - but we desperately need a striker and a manager who wants to develop young players.
A core of Branthwaite, O’Brien, Armstrong, Garner, Rohl, Ndaye, and maybe Dibbling is very exciting. Moyes is not the man to trust their development to unfortunately.
26/05/2026 06:23:15
Spot on.
Forward thinking clubs that for decades were divisions below us have now fully overtaken us.
“Happily dissatisfied” will be a phrase that will haunt our CEO.
26/05/2026 06:49:47
I fully agree, it was only 2 months ago we were dreaming of CL football when our leader came out and said the thought of it made him 'shake'.
The persistence with Tarks & Keane at CB is mystifying when he could easily put Jake there and play any of Patterson/Rohl/Coleman/Garner there and give us some pace and mobility at CB with O'Brien.
The refusal to play George when he always seems to create something is also bizarre, especially when you consider the massive drop-off from Ndiaye over the last few weeks.
Barry doesn't bother me as he's alternated his CF all season and both have a similar amount of goals, but even KDH (one of our best players this season) seemed to be suffering from brain fog on Sunday.
A cornet after 30 seconds against a nervous team was played short instead of just being delivered into the danger area. Then a free kick was played directly out of play, this was followed by an opportunity to cross the ball first time when it sat up perfectly to be vollied into the box but, again, he refused the temptation!
I was livid,absolutely bloody livid!!
Moyes has done a good job for us, and it seemed (briefly) he would seize this opportunity but his innate caution and lack of belief in his squad has seen us end up in the exact same position as last season.
The only bright spot is clubs like Bournemouth, Sunderland and Brighton lack any real European experience so hopefully we'll see a drop off in their League form next season. Especially Bournemouth, who have a new manager.
I heard yesterday that AC have offered Ariola the job, we could only dream of such a manager.
26/05/2026 07:26:20
TFG brought in Moyes for stability. But he was a perfect fit for Finch Farm, a term I use to collectively describe the core problems at Everton
IMO Finch Farm is the core problem – a self-preserving system of little empires that grinds down any manager who threatens it.
What do we make of a manager who isn't being ground down?
Moyes isn't being resisted. He isn't being waited out. He was brought back for Stability, he precisely doesn't pressure the structure. His tactics are functional, cautious – a clear step up from relegation survival, but no more than that. He delivers safety, not transformation. He doesn't challenge the culture. He embeds it. He becomes the shield that allows Finch Farm to continue unchanged.
So Moyes has to go – not because he's a bad manager, but because he is a champion of its maintenance.He actually tried to transfer the Culture to his in between Clubs.
But here's the difficulty that follows. Replacing him is only stage one. Any new manager, however vibrant, will fail unless TFG are prepared to tackle the core problem alongside him. That means dismantling the Finch Farm little empires, breaking the silos, and removing the people who embody the old culture. The problem is more subtle than just names on an org chart. People change, but the culture selects suitable replacements and tries to absorb those who are not. A new head of recruitment who arrives with fresh ideas will either be worn down or quietly replaced by someone who "understands how we do things here." That is how the system perpetuates itself. It doesn't need the same individuals. It just needs the right type of individual – someone who prioritises self-preservation over collaboration, budget over results, survival over ambition.
So it's not Moyes or Finch Farm. It's both. He goes, and they go with him. But even then, vigilance is required. Because the culture will try to rebuild itself under a new name. Stage one: the manager. Stage two: the structure. Stage three: permanent vigilance against the old instincts reasserting themselves. Without all three, nothing changes.
26/05/2026 09:47:39
Jerome is correct here. I always thought Koeman was brought in to change things, and he was fiercely resisted by the backroom staff. Kenwright chose his boys and Moshiri's decision was to sack Koeman. A year later, I saw a pic of one of the backroom staff with his arm around Silva saying 'Koeman was arrogant, not like this guy.'
Interesting to see a suddenly-fit DCL playing regularly and scoring for Leeds, isn't it?
They've spent 18 months righting the business. Doing the same with the football side can't come quick enough.
26/05/2026 12:07:05
Over the years Paul you have pin pointed the actual make up of what I have put forward. I was too busy translating the Spanish Press on Koeman and seeing / hoping for a new dawn..In truth I would not have used Koeman therefore as a example.But having looked at what you posted I checked again and you are right.
The Koeman story is exactly what I meant by "the structure knows how to wait out a manager who threatens it." Koeman arrived with a reputation for bluntness and a mandate to modernise. He saw the little empires at Finch Farm and, by all accounts,which I just researched, tried to push through changes to recruitment, medical protocols, and training methods.
That is "arrogance" in the language of a backroom staff that has spent decades learning how to protect its turf. Kenwright's loyalty was never to the manager who challenged his people. It was to the people who kept the ship steady. Moshiri, new to the league and reliant on local advice, chose the path of least resistance: sack the arrogant outsider, with the fanbase turned against him.
26/05/2026 12:54:02
Jerome/Paul
I welcome your comments but how can you be so sure the 'backroom staff' have so much leverage within the club?
I believe there were several internal changes after Dyche was sacked, indeed Moyes once again recruited Alan Irvine as his right hand man.
Also, without me delving into the coaching/ backroom personnel appointments, I'm sure there were a number of key coaching staff changes, who certainly would not have been around at the time of Koeman?
I know the youth recruitment has undergone a serious makeover with Everton poaching the head guy at Manchester United?
I would just put a question mark over the influence the staff at Finch Farm have over the results on the pitch.
Surely the buck must start and finish with the manager?
26/05/2026 14:45:25
I always thought that DCL was badly coached at Everton and push in the Centre Forward role before he had developed, with little support in overall tactics.No wonder he had mental Health issues.Great to see him back to himself and happier.
26/05/2026 15:48:31
Steve #8
The Finch Farm factor or internal culture can directly shape Everton's nvestment priorities, for better or worse. In the case of a Premier League side, the question is whether the culture at its training ground has contributed to a prolonged lack of capital investment. The answer is yes, directly and decisively. The underinvestment is not an accident. It is a symptom of that same culture. It even suits Self serving owners.
When a club's only stated objective is Premier League survival, major capital projects like training ground upgrades are always deprioritised. A survival‑driven board looks at a £15 million training pitch and sees something that could have been spent on a loan signing to chase 40 points. The infrastructure becomes invisible because it does not deliver results in February. That is the first way the culture enables underinvestment.
The second way is internal. The "little empires" at Finch Farm—recruitment, medical, sports science, academy—each fight to protect their own operational budgets. None of them has an incentive to demand major capital investment in the facilities themselves. That would require collaboration across departments and a shared, ambitious vision for the club. Instead, each empire quietly accepts mediocre facilities because mediocre facilities do not threaten their individual little Empire. They have learned to work with what exists.There is no Strategic plan buy in, not even a Barret Bacendale Permanent one. (Never was able to work that one out)
Third, consider the owners. Self‑serving owners have historically used roles at the club as patronage. They handed out jobs to loyalists, not to people who would agitate for expensive, long‑term infrastructure projects. Those appointees are there to keep things stable, not to push for excellence. Neither Kenwright nor Moshiri was ever seriously challenged from within to modernise Finch Farm. The people who could have demanded investment were the same people who owed their positions to the owners.
Fourth, when a new ownership group like TFG arrives and proposes a major upgrade, the existing culture offers quiet resistance. The response is rarely overt. It comes as delays, as gentle pushback: "We have functioned fine with what we have." "The Premier League doesn't require state‑of‑the‑art facilities." "That money would be better spent on players." This is not logic. This is self‑preservation. Change threatens the little empires, so they subtly undermine it.
Finally, the April on the beach holiday mentality identified, lowers the performance standard across the entire organisation. When everyone from the boardroom to the physio room accepts that the competitive season ends as soon as survival is safe, there is no internal pressure to build a training ground that produces elite athletes. Why invest in cutting‑edge recovery pools or altitude chambers if the team is mentally on the beach by Easter? Europe you have got to be kidding.
( By the way if survival is on doubt in April, Everton will beat a Champions League qualifier and some player will have a Laurus type moment. I have had to eat humble pie over the years when that happened)
The culture of low ambition, siloed self‑preservation, and survival as success directly excuses, enables, and perpetuates the lack of capital investment. The money was never demanded because the people inside Finch Farm did not need it to keep their jobs. And the owners never volunteered it, because no one made them uncomfortable enough to write the cheque. That is how a Premier League club ends up with a training ground, called Finch Farm, worth roughly the same as it was in 2007, while its rivals have spent hundreds of millions.
26/05/2026 19:12:08
Jerome
Yawn, really?
26/05/2026 19:19:15
If this back room culture goes back as many decades as you indicate, Jerome, I'm surprised we ever got Finch Farm in the first place. Presumably, the Finch Farm Blob must have been preceded by the Bellefield Blob, if so - how did they allow such a major investment in facilities to occur?
26/05/2026 20:07:27
Jerome, appreciate the lengthy explanation, covering eight paragraphs, but it sounds an awful lot like 'management speak' I'm afraid.
The lack of investment you mention at Finch Farm over twenty years was not in my opinion, down to the staff inside Finch Farm being 'happy with their lot', it was simply the club being on it's arse financially for nearly all the Kenwright years.
The club was in survival mode during that period, and investing and improving the facility at Finch Farm, was almost certainly not seen as a priority.
Coaching staff at nearly all football clubs is a pretty hazardous occupation, often lasting as long as the manager's tenure, sometimes less than 12 months.
I can't see them creating too many waves, about the environment they work in,more likely whether they would be getting their pay check next month.
26/05/2026 21:48:29
I've just read a piece attributed to Moyes on the Everton web site. What a laugh. I don't think
Several times he mentions having to do better next season and disappointment with how the season went, especially at the end. You don't say Davie. Strange isn't it that the supporters agree with you for once.
However, not once I don't think, did he say the immortal words, "I need too do better." He mentioned several times , or implied, that the team would have to do better.That would have sounded more like that he accepted at least some of the blame for the failings especially towards the end of the season. It appears not however. It is all down to the players (or someone else).
It also appears, from the words spoken in the article, that he intends to carry on with the inflexible methods and selection mantra he adopted last season.
He will never learn, nor does he want to, and so we are stuck where we are until he retires or is shown the door. I give up!!!! Over to you TFG.
26/05/2026 22:44:57
Steve#14,
Let's say it was convenient for the Owners tea, but your explanation does not explain the present situation under the TFG. I could have given a shorter explanation, but then I would have not providing evidence, which you dismiss as Management speak, but I still say rings true in any speak.. The lack of investment cannot be all down to a Financial skint owner.At the start of Moshiri 's reign money was spent hand over fist.Compared to other Premier League the sums are too large to explain away with your explanation.
Finch Farm cost between £14-17 million to build and was valued at £17 million upon completion in 2007. This value has remained static, as owners have failed to make significant improvements, which perfectly fits my analysis of a "culture of survival" that avoids strategic investment. The club sold the freehold to developers and signed a 50-year lease, failing to secure ownership of its core asset.The complex largely remains as it was in 2007. It lacks the advanced hydrotherapy, analysis suites, and communal spaces now standard at elite clubs.The club markets the base under the "School of Science" nickname, which once symbolized progress but feels deeply ironic given the modern, stagnant reality.. A £4 million local Council loan in 2016 for a new show pitch stands as the only significant upgrade in nearly 20 years
When comparisons are drawn the difference is stark: Roma's entro Sportivo Fulvio Bernardini in Trigoria TFG nvested ( starting t2020) over €100 million to repurchase the land from a third party and completely overhaul the site. City Academy training facilities(2014) cost £200 million.Liverpool AXA training Centre (2020)£50 million.Leicester City Seagrave(2020). £100 million.
26/05/2026 00:16:13
I think if Moyes were to leave now, he could do so with his head held relatively high and he could quite feasibly claim that he did the job he was meant to do. Namely bringing a bit of stability during a time of big change, and securing Premier League safety which he did with relative comfort.
However, from this position of stability he has forged, we should now be looking to build. Make progress. Aim high. Shoot for the stars.
Moyes and his safety first approach is fine if we want to aim for 10th to 15th again next season. But I think we could be a lot more bold than that, but being bold just isn't in Moyes' DNA.
Would bringing in a more adventurous new manager come with more risk? Of course, and so I do appreciate the logic behind just sticking with the tried and tested.
But I believe we can do better. I believe we deserve better.
He who dares.
27/05/2026 10:46:06
Anyone thinking Moyes will step aside is as delusional as he is. Unless our owners (whoever they are) get some ambition, we will be watching the same safety-first mediocre, turgid crap as this year, and Mr Moyes will expect you to be grateful that you have him.
27/05/2026 11:12:57
Before the Spurs game, I posted the following on another site: ‘you have absolutely nothing to fear from us Spurs fans with the way we have been playing recently, and Mr Moyes will continue to stick with his favourites who have been failing so badly’.
And there’s the problem. If it’s all so predictable to us then you can be sure as hell the opposition know what to expect and where our (many) weaknesses are. Despite needing changes at half time I was thoroughly unsurprised when none were forthcoming. It is all so stale and predictable. Maybe Moyes has his first XI on a whiteboard but has lost his eraser…
I have completely turned around on Moyes over the course of the season, and as well as missing a golden opportunity to finish in Europe this time through nothing other than his refusal to drop knackered or out of form players, I now have serious concerns about the type player we can attract with him in charge.
Moyes out!
27/05/2026 19:40:30
Three of the back four that played on Sunday also played in the comeback win over palace in 2022!!
27/05/2026 21:33:20
Watching Crystal Palace here less than half an hour away from their 2nd major trophy in as many years and it’s just depressing watching clubs like them totally surpass us while we stand still and make excuses for why we have to.
There’s reports in Italy supposedly suggesting that Iraola will turn AC Milan down to join Palace. Whether it’s true or not I highly doubt it but wow. If he’d consider them surely he’d give us a glance if we made an offer? He’s right there and we’re going to keep Moyes and give him total control of transfers.
27/05/2026 22:35:31
At the risk of being given anti depressants or being treated for paranoia, my head is done in with Moyes, he consumes most of my thoughts when I consider Everton and football in general. Palaces have just won their THIRD trophy in 12 months. Palace.
Then I swapped over to the Echo and read about Dan and Ryan and their love affair with Roma. The always politically correct Echo, was having quite a few digs at them for no showing at Everton whilst interacting with Roma on what appears a weekly basis (it probably isn't but you get the drift)
I was questioning myself on a daily basis thinking I was so far removed from reality I was becoming obsessed with the owners snubs, the totally inept Moyes, the arrogant CEO and an absence of anything that would suggest we are on the right track, that we are going to shake things up, that we have a great view of restructuring the team.
Jesus Christ. Its not me after all. Don't get me wrong, I am delighted for Palace, Brilliant win. But it puts Everton in a really awful comparison. How many years is it?
We are definitely playing second fiddle to Roma, not even close. The ambition for them from the owners is staring at us in every newspaper picture, every handshake, every flight, every visit.
So where are we? Where do we figure?
Its clear we have to do a Palace (I can't believe I am writing this) to even get a mention, let alone a visit. Its also clear David Moyes is never going to be the one to do it.
The Echo says a TFG "representative" attends all our games. Who? the family cat?
One can only assume we were bought to kick us into shape and flick on at a handsome profit. But someone should tell dear old Dan, that he will get nowhere with Moyes, and he will get a better return on his investment if we win a trophy, or two, or three in 12 months.
Well done Palace, truly well done. You made my day and ruined it all at once.
27/05/2026 00:10:08
Christine, exactly what I’ve been thinking.
It’s totally depressing following the hope we had when TFG finally acquired the club and we looked forward to an exiting new future in our superb new stadium.
Instead we appear to be stuck with another dreary season with Moyes and Kinnear who, after his preposterous “happily dissatisfied” statement appears to be another useless signing.
Meanwhile the absentee Friedkins joyfully celebrate Roma qualifying for the Champions League.
Perhaps we’ll get a wonderful surprise with Moyes sacked and Glasner moving in (Iraola seems out of reach), but I doubt it.
30/05/2026 12:45:53
Slot shot, If TFG wanted a lesson in standards they could look across the park and learn. Champions league, title winner, not deemed good enough for them. Yet here we are smell the roses Dan.. they aren't sweet.
30/05/2026 13:15:12
Nail on the head Christine. Demonstrates the gulf between us and them.
1 poor season and they bin off the manager and move within hours to get one of the highest young managers in Europe to replace him.
Meanwhile we have to wed ourselves long term to Moyes cos of a relegation battle 3 years ago. We have been stable league wise since then. How long are we meant to just accept mid table while forward thinking clubs overtake us? It’s genuinely depressing how much a section of the fanbase is incapable of moving on from Moyes.
Get him gone, look outside the box, there are talented progressive coaches out there. It’s time this football club moved into 2026, not forever in nostalgia to 2008.
01/06/2026 18:54:02
You have taken a lot of stick over the years on Toffeeweb, for your opinions about finch farm, Jerome, and like I have said before, I think you must have received information from someone who is close to the action inside the training ground?
I might also be wrong but I have exactly the same feelings but maybe it’s because I have heard a few stories over the years, alluding to what you write.
I went into finch farm, to see Dyche and Stone, and it didn’t give me any bad vibes, but when I was sitting at the table speaking, I was asking them what it was like and Ian Woan, instantly said, it’s very clicky.
I’ve heard it’s fuckin brutal, was my reply, and they just said that it was a difficult place because nearly all the staff were big Evertonians.
I’ve been to finch farm, quite a lot over the years and if I’m being honest I fucking hate the place. There are some nice people but, overall I get a feeling of what I would describe as people thinking they’re above you because they work for Everton.
It’s the first thing I would change. I hate arrogance but I suppose it can be accepted from people who have achieved something, even though I prefer people to be honest, hard working and humble.
01/06/2026 22:27:25
jerome and antony I get it finch farm has some staff who may be protecting their own empires but the best facilities in the world ain't gonna turn barry & beto into pele and rivelino ! or change mr negative into a positive attack minded manager- god knows he would play 8 centre halves if he could, mr lescott and mr distin played full back for dour davie is john stones next ? how the hell does he manage to get amongst the highest paid managers ? its not like his record screams winning manager is it.. someone mentioned calvert lewin yeah he has played 30 odd games this season but kept on breaking down with us ( branthwaite too ) at everton a centre forward has to win the big hoof upfield chase his own knock down and beat 4 defenders then the goalie at leeds dcl has players around him and they get players in the box maybe dcl was fed up with successive everton managers formation of just one isolated striker anyway everton nothing changes but not sure if finch farm is to blame for poor recruitment of players, managers, ceo's and owners who rescued us then seem indifferent to us. I got my first season ticket in 1970 but now aged 70 I have decided efc aint getting anymore of my hard earned I will always support everton but they don't come to see me when i'm bad !
02/06/2026 16:49:33
You can’t blame finch farm for what is happening on the non-footballing side of the club, Phillip, but it should definitely be the place were everything begins to connect on the footballing side though.
This is never going to be successful if Jerome, is correct and it is a place that is self preserving and full of little empires, that grinds down any manager who threatens it.
It was probably/MOST DEFINITELY, created in the era of complete nepotism, that oversaw the Kenwright regime and because Moyes, was around for nearly half of Bill’s reign, it could be argued that he will more than most people, know how to play the game?
02/06/2026 20:50:09
hi antony, I don't think I am blaming finch farm for whats happening on the non football side and I agree the teary one and his yes men and yes women - jobs for the boys culture probably still alive now. one reason I did not want dour davie back was his guilt by association with billy liar. on the field we just want positive attacking football with players playing in the correct positions and if we win a few games thats a bonus.
evertonians deserve better than the product that has been served up this season and only 3 points from the last 7 games is relegation form.
02/06/2026 21:33:50
I wasn’t insinuating that you had Philip, I just separating the two different sides of the club.
Neither has been up to scratch for many years because I think that the culture that Jerome, described with regards finch farm, was always very prevalent right throughout the club, whilst Bill Kenwright, was around.
It was always going to end in tears, but thankfully we survived, even though the people in the boardroom, a boardroom which sounded very similar to what Jerome described to what was happening at finch farm, (a little empire of self preservation) finally got found out, although they were still paid very handsomely to leave.
Self preservation and nepotism, leads to nothing but a horrible toxic environment, and something that I’ve said for years is that I’d love to see it uprooted, bagged up and banished completely from our football club.
Until it does then standards will always suffer, because when the most important thing becomes self preservation, then constantly trying to improve will only at best, take second place.
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26/05/2026 02:05:14
Unfortunately I completely agree with everything said. I'm a big fan of everything Moyes has done for us but we've became too predictable, everything from playing selection and tactics. Tarkowski and Mykolenko shouldn't been anywhere near our first team anymore. The failure to sign a proper RB and striker has been a massive failing as well. N'diaye was absolutely shocking yesterday and the fact that Dibling wasn't brought on to replace him is shocking. Thank you Moyes but if we wanna move forward we need someone else in now.